Agnes de Flamville

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Medlands (3 Jul 2024): Untitled English Nobility D–K

• c) AGNES de Flamville (-after 1214). “Willelmus de Percy de Kildale” confirmed a donation by “Robertus de Brus…de feodo Ernulfi de Percy avi mei” to Gysborn priory, for the soul of “Agnetis uxoris mee”, by charter dated to [1171/95], witnessed by “…Hugone de Flamevilla…Henrico de Percy…”[950]. Bracton records a claim, dated 1219, by "Walterus de Percy" against "Magistrum hospitalis Sancti Leonardi de Eboraco" concerning "terre…in Martona" of which "Agnes de Flamnanvilla mater sua…Joannem le Birkin quondam virum ipsius Agnetis" was seised[951].
• m firstly WILLIAM de Percy of Kildale, son of ROBERT Percy & his wife Agnes --- (-1202).
• m secondly JOHN le Birkin, son of ---.

British History Online: [https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/yorks/north/vol2/pp249-253 Parishes: Kildale “Manor”}

• In or about 1119 Arnald de Percy, perhaps his son, was among the men of Robert de Brus, of whom he held land in Ormesby. (fn. 24)… One of these heirs was William, the next lord of Kildale, who in confirming the Ormesby grant speaks of the donors as his grandfather Ernulf de Percy and his uncle Ernulf. (fn. 30)
• William was in possession of Kildale in 1197. (fn. 31) His wife was Agnes de Flamvill, (fn. 32) and with her he was party to a fine in 1202 concerning land in Hammerton. (fn. 33) He was dead in the next year, for Agnes recovered dower from his tenants in Battersby. (fn. 34) She subsequently married John Birkin, and made a grant for the good of the souls of both her husbands. (fn. 35)
• The son and heir of William and Agnes was Walter de Percy, (fn. 36) who confirmed a gift of his mother to Basedale Priory (fn. 37) and his father's grants in Ormesby. William de Percy, son of Walter, (fn. 38) succeeded him, and was in possession of the manor for about fifty years.

Corrections to CP Corrections:

Groups.Google.com – Rosie Bevan

“In a nutshell, primary evidence from charters firmly places Juetta as mother of Peter de Brus and Isabel de Brus. JUETTA ALSO HAD A DAUGHTER BY ROGER DE FLAMVILLE CALLED AGNES, who married William de Percy, Lord of Kildale, Yorks. d. bef 1203, who was a tenant of the Brus family in Ormesby. Agnes married secondly John Birkin and made a grant to Gisborough Priory "for the good of the soul of both my husbands". Agnes' son, Walter de Percy, as heir to his uncle Hugh de Flamville, still living in 1210 [Pipe Roll 11 John, p. 123], who died without issue, confirmed a gift his mother had made to Basedale Priory and a gift his uncle Hugh de FLAMVILLE made to Rievaulx Abbey.[VCH Yorkshire North Riding, v.2, p.250]. Walter de Percy was heir to his uncle of a moiety of Flamville, Friton and Holthorpe which indicates that Roger and Juetta probably had another daughter. However, regarding the Arches inheritance, Juetta's son Peter de Brus, was her male heir after the death of Hugh de FLAMVILLE. Peter's son, Peter de Brus II was recorded as holding the 7 fees in 1224-30. [Clay, Early Yorkshire Families, p.2]

1. Adam de Brus I d.1142
+ Agnes de Aumale (married secondly William de Roumare d.1151)
2. Adam de Brus II c1134-1196
+ Juetta de Arches d. aft 1209
3. Peter de Brus d.1222
3. Isabel de Brus
2. William de Brus
1. Agnes de Aumale
+1.Adam de Brus d.1142
2. Adam de Brus II 1134-1196
2. William de Brus
+2. William de Roumare d.1151
2. William de Roumare, Earl of Lincoln d.s.p.c 1198
2. Robert de Roumare
2. Roger de Roumare
1. Jueta de Arches d.aft 1209
+1. Roger de Flamville d.1169
2. Hugh de Flamville d.s.p.aft 1210
2. Agnes de Flamville
2. NN de Flamville
+2. Adam II de Brus 1134-1196
2. Peter de Brus d.1224
2. Isabel de Brus

“From the dates we have concerning Adam de Brus II, it is apparent that he did not marry Juetta until after 1169 after the death of her first husband. He would have been at this time 35 years old. Considering he was the heir to a substantial inheritance, he must have been married previously and had no issue by his previous wife. It may have been this problem with dates which caused the original confusion over which Adam was the husband of Agnes and Juetta.

Incidentally, the Aumale custody of the Brus estate during the minority of Adam II, had far reaching consequences, for William le Gros succeeded in appropriating for himself Danby, the caput of the Brus barony, and its rich iron ore mine workings, with the result that the Brus caput moved to Skelton. In 1179 when William le Gros died, Adam was unsuccessful in regaining seisin of Danby and Henry II took this into his own hands – 5 years later compensating the Brus family with 3 manors in lower Wharfdale.

“Danby was regained twenty years later in 1201 when King John returned Danby to Peter de Brus in return for the 3 manors previously exchanged as well as 1000 pounds to be paid over 3 years in in twice yearly instalments. The effect of this deal plus the inheritance of his father's debt and payment of relief (500 marks) was to plunge the Brus barony into severe debt to the tune of nearly 3000 pounds. The injustice of the payment demanded was a major factor in his disaffection with King John and he was one of the first six rebels, but was not amongst the 25 barons acting as surety for the Magna Carta. [M.J. Vine, "Two Yorkshire rebels : Peter de Brus and Richard de Percy, The Yorkshire Archaeological Journal, v. 47, 1975, p.69-79] However, the Langbargh Charter which he issued in 1207 and 1209, is considered a precurser of the Magna Carta because of the similarity of its ideals and beliefs.”

"In this charter, Peter agreed to certain limitations in the exercise of his authority in return for a guarantee that the knights and free tenants of the wapentake would make up any shortfall in the difference between Peter's income from the wapentake courts and the rent of forty marks charged by the king. Peter agreed that people would not be impleaded except by what were traditional means, that anyone amerced would be amerced according to his wealth, and according to his offense, that the wapentake officials would swear to maintain the liberties in the charter, that they would be replaced if they failed to do so, and that their number would be limited." [Hugh Thomas, Vassals, Heiresses, Crusaders and Thugs: The Gentry of Angevian Yorkshire, 1154-1216, University of Pennsylvania Press, 1993. p. 206]

BOOK

• Clay, Charles, and Diana E. Greenway, eds. 2013. “Flamville.” In Early Yorkshire Charters, 29–32. New York: Cambridge University Press. Google Books.