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Greetings,

I work for Geni and noticed your other discussion regarding Danish genealogy. For a profile such as this, regarding a person who lived hundreds of years ago, the software that powers Geni obviously does not know whether one person's version of that profile is more, or less, accurate than another's. So when duplicate profiles are merged, the managers of both profiles are retained as managers of the merged profile. In the example you posted, three duplicate profiles were merged resulting in three managers.

So how does the site aid in identifying and retaining the correct genealogy data? The answer is documents and sources. We attempt to support the Genealogical Proof Standard (see http://www.bcgcertification.org/resources/standard.html) by allowing our users to upload documents and cite those documents as supporting certain facts on the profiles. Our volunteer curators fully support this endeavor and will take every precaution to favor information that is supported by reliable citations, over information that is not. The best way to ensure that your version of a profile is retained after a merge, is to upload your sources and cite them on the profile's Sources tab. I see that you've done exactly this on the Hans Mathias Madsen Benzon profile, except I don't believe you identified exactly which facts are supported by your sources. A good example of use of our Sources feature is the master profile for Charlemagne: Charlemagne (Wikipedia isn't the best source but anyone choosing from conflicting birth locations would be well-advised to choose the location that has a source citation over one that does not).

Greetings Mike, (I never use Wikipedia as sourse). If you don´t read Danish, you will not notice, the source comming from the church where people from this branch of the family are barried.
"Kirke" means church in Danish.
And you will never think about that the family place Skærsø, has Dråby as church.
The church and Benzons place Skærsø, I have nearby where I live.
There isa big difference in sitting at the other side of the planet, without understanding one word of Danish reading a Danisk source,
in having the sources right outside your door, told in a language you known as your mothertounge, don´t you agree?
Do you think all sources have to be translated into Danish to help these American curators who decides the choise of data..

All data is so far excatly like I add in the profile, when I made the profile few days ago, and no informations has been add from the new administrator/s.
What I talk about here is, now the profile is out of my hand . I will not be contacted in case some one wants to contact the administrator for changes.
I am completly gone from the "changes" under the profile, even it was me who add them. Notice: these profile did not excist on Geni, when I made the profiles few days ago.
If anyone wants to talk about the data, they will not come to the right person, so to speak.
My personal question is, if it is worth it, to use days of working on profiles, testing informations etc. for Geni.
I am not talking about "ownership" of profiles, like some wants to read it. But if you insists to talk about ownership. This one you contact, if you from outside want to come in contact with the profile, is the owner.

And now I will copy the beginning of this thread:
You create a profile, (that does not excist on Geny already), spend long time cross investigate data sources etc, add data and sources and feel fine in the belife that if data needs changes, you, as "managed by" will be contacted, and there will be a serious data talk about this, before the change can be done. THIS IS WHAT YOU THINK. (but you will soon be surprised)

#Do you think all sources have to be translated into Danish to help these American curators who decides the choise of data..#

I of course mean translated into English.

http://www.geni.com/people/Peter-R%C3%B8ring/6000000011735771196

Is this the way it happens? I AM ONLY ASKING! (Have asked the manager, no answer).

You create a fast profile (no or few data) for a person,
who is already in the tree with full data and branches. Then you ask one of the american curators to merge you into the tree and you become the main admimistrator.
I don´t know, I AM ONLY ASKING. But I have always been wondering when I see all those fast extra profiles created. I only see them as iritation and extra work and have never understood why they are made.

Your example just shows the major problem in the Danish lines: An endless fight on who is listed first as the manager, something you also focus on.

Hopefully Geni will remove all managers on historical profiles because it is totally unnecessary to even have such a focus. I have suggested this several times.

There are 6 million users in Geni that expect some help from the Geni curators and spending so much time on lines that could be solved easily by collaboration and working together is just frustrating. If you find errors, - correct and document them.

Ha Ha, you make me laugh loudly Bjørn Brox, you are in this the expert.

Again: You need to see some facts.
So, - what is your problem?

Mike Stangel I see that the original day a profile was add and data right after is disapearing from the "revision" under many profiles now. It is not only happening in the new profiles I talk about here. (I call the "revision" "changes", in the thread here. It is because I use the Danish edition.)

Bjørn Brox you just go on, this could fairly be a big problem.

A M yes, that's more or less what we expect. We also expect people to act like adults and cooperate with the interest of getting the information correct, instead of simply preserving their egos. Try this thought experiment for a moment: how would Geni work if each profile were actually a page on Wikipedia?

Before you scoff, consider that Wikipedia doesn't make good source material because it is not a primary source itself. But good Wikipedia articles _do_ cite primary sources, and consequently at least one study concluded that it is as accurate as Encyclopedia Britannica (http://news.cnet.com/Study-Wikipedia-as-accurate-as-Britannica/2100...).

http://www.geni.com/discussions/91943?msg=685366

Knud Johan Severinfaxe Jensen i dag kl. 8:22: May be it can be frustrating to see, that a profile stripped for everything except a name, wich is minimum for a profile in geni, appears with profile foto, birthdate, place, dead date, place, uccupation and futher on.
And now comes the horrific disarster, your name is lined as no. 2 in managers line.What's up?
I would like to ask you, as other have done before.
What is your problem, and I have not seen any explanation yet?

Some one make too much focus on the board of managers and who is placed on the end of the table. It is without meaning at all.

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A M Kjær I dag kl. 11:51: A profile stripped for everything?? I never saw this profile stripped for anyrything. All informations were add by me when I left the profile the 9th og MARTS, 2011, so I don´t know, what our are talking about,. And there was no other profiles fort this person to see on Geni at that time, so I don´t see what your are talking about.
Can you tell me, why you so very very often create extra profiles for already excisting profiles? In your extra profiles, there is few or no data, and in the profiles you make extra for, there is all informations. There is no branches conected to your extra prifiles, it is only a single extra profile, so I can´t see the reason for this. Would you be so kind to tell me why it is done?
I would also like to know, why I disapear from the revision sections?.

You ask me what my problem is. It is not my personal problem but a problem for the seriousity on Geni. Have you worked on informations for the extra profiles? Or do you only copy Finn Holbek, if you are forced to find some data? Every contact about this profile will go to you. I can get the feeling not to use lots of work on profiles only for you to take over. This could be very very fine, if you realy had study those families but I am sory to say, it is not my impression. (Just think about Bille Brahe)
I am trying to find out, if Geni is worth it. It is not a problem for me.

http://www.geni.com/discussions/91943?msg=685366