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Started by Erica Howton on Saturday, December 23, 2023
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Profiles and trees grow cobwebs unless shined up, and geni has enhanced their product over the years. So don’t be afraid to revisit established trees and collaborate with each other to get them in less baggy shape.

Post here when started & completed. Details usually best covered on its own discussion from profile.

https://www.geni.com/discussions/273534?msg=1671779

Col. Daniel Boone And his tree has been enhanced by Jeremy Austin Kaplan and collaborators. We worked on his “about,” documents and timeline.

I must admit, having collaborator help made this go faster, smoother & more accurately than tackling on my own. “many hands make light work,”

Shucks, thanks.

The first Anglo Saxon in America was Captain Warman May 1607 documents are in President Thomas Jefferson Papers.

Can you tag his geni profile?

A GENI member has published his personal take on his DNA matches within the "About" section of an ancestor profile. He asserts that "DNA ties a descendant" of his ancestral Scots-Irish ancestor to my theoretical Scots-Irish 6th great-grandfather (who has not been identified in any historical records and is beyond a brick wall) due to two triangulating groups of matches to him. This member has now added various speculative details presuming that my ancestor "must" have been born in the same area as his ancestor. Further, this member has added an invented sibling in his ancestral family to serve as a mother for my theoretical 6th great-grandfather in order to fit his hypothesis. See the profile John ‘of Brookeborough‘ Armstrong where the privacy issues occur in the profile of his daughter "Unknown McClure"

I communicated with this person, explaining that there is a wide range of possible relationships for 15cM-25cM triangulating matches and that considerable evidence is required to document an 8th cousin inheritance path following each ancestral line. I do not find his conclusion viable as presented. Thus far he has been undeterred.

What is alarming is that this publicly visible "analysis" names his DNA matches and hyperlinks their full names to their otherwise private GENI profiles. Three of these matches are close relatives to me and I manage their test results. I have removed the hyperlinks for them, replacing their names with initials. This GENI member has not discussed his interpretation with my relatives or with me (until now) and has not been granted permission to publish their names. Hyperlinking the full names to the profiles of living persons is a direct (double?) privacy violation in my view.

Karen Brauer

We’ve started a project to work on the case you bring up.

https://www.geni.com/projects/DNA-evidence-for-unknown-daughter-Armstrong/4498003

I’ve masked the member profiles with initials.

To clarify the above, the "published names" are contained in GENI profile URL references, not in in the text of the About messages themselves. GENI obfuscates all private profile names displayed, depending on whether you have management privileges for the profile in question. Since Karen Brauer has management privileges for her private profiles, the links appear to her as the names on her profiles. They do not appear that way to anyone else.

There WAS a problem in the fact that if you were to EDIT the About section, the links also contained the names. This you can fix by removing the names and replacing them with "profiles" in the URL.

To further anonymize this, Erica Howton replaced the naked URLs with a link that used initials instead. That works fine as well but the GENI security for those profiles actually does a pretty good job already, provided the names are scrubbed from the URL itself.

This solution was presented to Mrs. Brauer but so far she is still unhappy with it and as I understand it we are in the process of deciding whether any relationship information gleaned from DNA test sites can be used without the express written permission of the testee. That would in fact impact not just GENI but pretty much the entire testing and genealogical world, so it is a rather big deal. GENI's processes for obfuscating private profiles are industry standard but apparently Mrs. Brauer's claim is that relationships between profiles may also be privileged information.

Karen Brauer

Is it in fact your belief that “ relationship information gleaned from DNA test sites cannot be used without the express written permission of the testee?”

Thank you for clarifications on that point.

I'm a little stymied about how to proceed and could use a hand! I recently found a deed describing Rev. William K. Corbitt as an heir of Edward Corbitt -- right here: https://www.geni.com/profile/6000000017641412061/events/60000002048...

Other events has implied this, so I feel very good about the connection. William is widely (and incorrectly) called the son of John Corbit -- who is usually incorrectly called Benjamin John Corbitt. I dunno why. My facts are straight.

Anyway, Edward Corbitt is labeled as born in Mississippi in 1763. MS wasn't a state until 1818, of course. How do we find his origins? Can we track backwards from the MS deed? Are there survey docs from the Chickasaw Cessation avail anywhere? I'm lost on Edward's origins and would love help.

Jeremy Austin Kaplan - I’m impressed with your detailed research. I’m a little wondering if there weren’t two different Edward Corbet / Corbitts though, because the man born in “Mississippi” does not seem to be the same man who died in Shelby, TN.

Specifically, there are Tax, Land & a census records in TN for Edward Corbitt:

(See suggested records at https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1780819:9176?ssrc...)

At the same time as https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/2321882:3599?

OK, I see the family sold property to each other in Marshall County, MS. https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000204858852823

So that’s cool. Edward Corbet / Corbitt was pensioned while living in Mississippi in 1840, bought property there in 1820, but died in Shelby County, Tennessee. And you have a great picture of his family from probate & deed records.

So - how’d he get to Mississippi and from where?

Thank you, Erica Howton! Marshall, Miss, and Shelby, Tenn., are very close, so I imagine it was easy to bounce between the two spots. But I don't know how to get to Edward's childhood. Records from early Tennessee are spartan. I imagine the only settled part was South Carolina at the time ...

But checking again. There was an Edward Corbett buried in Madison, MS:

https://sarpatriots.sar.org/patriot/display/138797

Edward CORBETT
SAR Patriot #: P-138797

Rev War Graves Register. Clovis H. Brakebill, compiler. 672pp. SAR. 1993

SAR Rev War Graves Register CD. Progeny Publishing Co: Buffalo, NY. 1998

Burial:
n/a
Location:
Madison / MS
Find A Grave Cemetery #:

Tennessee didn’t exist until 1796, it was North Carolina. It’s conceivable your Edward was some sort of “Mississippi territory” person from Natchez etc. But I’d vote for North Carolina.

I have a Tennessee ancestor born in Alabama / North Carolina / Tennessee/ North Carolina depending on what the census person wrote down.

There's a James Corbitt in the 1810 Mississippi state census, but he's in Claiborne County too. 🤔

Well, there was more than one Corbitt. Was your guy from the Ulster Plantation, do you think?

What's the Ulster Plantation? It sounds promising! But I've really no idea where to go next with this. I built a project to find find Rev. William K. Corbitt's family, which was all wrong in Geni, and tracked down Edward Corbitt along the way, but I don't see how it sheds lifght on where Edward Corbitt came from. Virginia? North Carolina?

That is to say, I don't see how my project clears up Edward's heritage.

You did a great job finding the Rev & his family. But to go back further, go more into the present tense. Are origins considered English? Scots? Or Scotch Irish from the Ulster Plantation? Did they live in Appalachia or in cities? What was the religion practiced? How did it change, if it did, over time?

Look at in laws. People tended to remarry cousins and travel together.

John ‘Old John’ Burton, Sr. John ‘Old John’ Burton (Hatcher) is my Hatcher cousin: https://www.geni.com/path/Cynthia-Curtis-A183502-US7875087+is+relat...
Curated by Private User
I am not a manager nor am I following the profile but ran into it again today while looking at a Discussion and seeing the name again in that path.
He is a DNA proved child of mother William Hatcher, Jr. 's first husband William Hatcher, Jr. and raised with her by the second husband Thomas ‘of Cobbs’ Burton, Sr. and he and siblings took step father's name.
Any way, he presently has about 22 children showing, 2 are named simply daughter and he has a partner and a wife. The partner is showing attached to only one child.

Can someone give this profile some TLC and a once over?
A will and a few links are on his Bio and there are "sources" attached.
Thank you

Sorry-- mother is Susannah Steward :/ lol

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087

Cleaned up the family of John ‘Old John’ Burton, Sr. & locked relationships.

The partner is controversial:

Judith Nunsly

Oh no poor Samuel!
Samuel Burton
Thank you, Erica Howton

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