Sarah (Bloom) Cohen - Parents

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10/18/2021 at 10:27 PM

My father told me about he had an affair with Denmark or Sweden mom in California

10/18/2021 at 10:32 PM

Are Your Parents Related?
Since you inherit half of your DNA from each of your parents, it stands to reason that large blocks of SNPs where both alleles are the same would be an indication that your parents each inherited that block from the same ancestor. These are called 'Runs of Homozygosity' (ROH). There are other utilities available that look for ROH for other purposes, but this analysis is specifically aimed at determining how closely related your parents might be.

Private User
10/18/2021 at 10:42 PM

Dawn Siegel , Martha would not have inherited mtDNA from Della "Jenny" Ferrin because she is the daughter of that woman's son. The son cannot pass his mother's mtDNA to his daughter. Martha gets her mtDNA from her own mother.

And again, Martha's mtDNA and your discoveries about your own parents, while interesting and important, are not relevant to the question of Sarah Bloom Cohen's parents.

10/18/2021 at 10:51 PM

I am not acceptable with Martha's reputation of my husband.

Private User
10/18/2021 at 10:51 PM

Private User -
Re: https://www.geni.com/discussions/239212?msg=1513659 - No, I hadn't seen it.
Usually I scroll forward and backward from a Naturalization Petition - definitely would have registered that if I had seen it.
Looking forward to your posting.

(PS - If it is Nat. Petition and just the one page, then it is the main page. Not sure I have come across any other Affadavits, so not sure how I would title them, but would not just say Nat. Petition)

Private User
10/18/2021 at 10:52 PM

I've posted it as a photo titled "Affidavit of Petitioner: David Walter Bloom and Father's Naturalization Status".

Private User
10/18/2021 at 10:54 PM
10/18/2021 at 11:10 PM

James Henry Rollins is my 7th cousin four times removed.

James Henry Rollins is my husband's great uncle's wife's brother's wife's sister's husband's sister's husband's grandfather. (Ferrin)

10/18/2021 at 11:31 PM

I am related to Rosenberg relatives.

10/18/2021 at 11:55 PM

Ira Anthon Jacobson Chugg is my husband's great uncle's wife's brother's wife's first cousin.

ME
→ Mitchell K Siegel - Blue Bloodkin
your husband → Herbert Siegel - Blue bloodkin
his father → Mary Siegel - Blue bloodkin
his mother → David Walter Bloom. BloodKin
her brother → Clara F Bloom ---------------------------------- mtDNA????????????????
his wife → Arthur Harold Ferrin ------------- YDNA & mtDNA????????????????????
her brother → Cora Marie Ferrin ----------- mtDNA??????? (DNA matches Mike G from Denmark
his wife → Anthon Ephriam Jacobson DNA matches Mike G. from Denmark 3rd cousin once removed
her father → Sarah Ann Chugg
his sister → Ira Anthon Jacobson Chugg
her son

10/19/2021 at 3:47 AM

Mitchell - Please take really good pictures of family Gravestones. I know the dates may be fudged but I want Hebrew names.

Private User
10/19/2021 at 7:09 AM

Yes, we will going to Safford, Arizona tomorrow. Cora Marie Ferrin - 3 missing children. I am related to Cora Marie Ferrin by Mike G. from Denmark. I knew Arthur Harold Ferrin had three wives - mtDNA from Denmark, Sweden, England. Never know Arthur Harold Ferrin have another partners. He was 101 years old Jewish man.

Private User
10/19/2021 at 7:17 AM

Private User - for some reason the link just gives "Error
You don't have permission to view this item." - but I can see the photo of the Affidavit fine on the Profile. Thanks.

The Affidavit was dated June 20, 1932, the Newspaper article was published August 1932 - Do not know if an example of a newspaper getting something wrong or??
Definitely do not suggest the same thing.
In the Affidavit he states firmly he had had a certified copy of a Certificate issued to someone with same name as his father, same town but possibly not his father - but which version of his father's name? Would be interested in seeing it if it exists.
If we believe the Affidavit, then his father died circa 1894, yes? (1893 to 1895)

10/19/2021 at 7:21 AM

Alexander Alma Allen is my 13th cousin once remove - Blue blood relatives.

Alexander Alma Allen is my husband's great uncle's wife's brother's wife's first cousin once removed's husband's great aunt's husband.
ME
→ Mitchell K Siegel
your husband → Herbert Siegel
his father → Mary Siegel
his mother → David Walter Bloom
her brother → Clara F Bloom ---------------------------------- RED. no mtDNA
his wife → Arthur Harold Ferrin ------------------------------- RED. no mtDNA and no YDNA
her brother → Cora Marie Ferrin ----------------------------- GREEN
his wife → Anthon Ephriam Jacobson ---------------------- GREEN
her father → Eliza Christiana Dunford ---------------------- GREEN
his sister → Karma Weston ----------------------------------- GREEN
her daughter → Venice Weston ----------------------------- GREEN
her daughter → Vernon Worley Carlson
her husband → Catherine Carlson
his mother → Joseph Enos Cowley
her father → Maria Elinor Allen
his sister → Alexander Alma Allen
her husband

10/19/2021 at 7:42 AM

Private User. I didn't do the mtDNA and I am not a man so I can't do the YDNA. I have no idea what you're asking when you ask, "Are you parent ofFerrin via GedMatch?" My maiden name is Ferrin, therefore, I have no children with the last name of Ferrin.

10/19/2021 at 7:44 AM

I have 41,800 ancestors in Blue Blood Relatives. Martha did not upload into Geni from Ancestry or FTDNA.

Martha Ferrin-Fernandez is my husband's great uncle's wife's great niece.

ME
→ Mitchell K Siegel
your husband → Herbert Siegel
his father → Mary Siegel
his mother → David Walter Bloom
her brother → Clara F Bloom
his wife → Arthur Harold Ferrin
her brother → Harold Clayton Ferrin
his son → Martha Ferrin-Fernandez
his daughter

10/19/2021 at 7:48 AM

There were 3 missing children. My husband found out that Chicago attorneys worked the adoption children PLUS Birth certificate FRAUD. My husband and I went to Cook County for get my birth certificate for passport in 1985. I found my bio father in 2018. I did not trust any documents.

Private User
10/19/2021 at 8:42 AM

Martha Fernandez and ME share the following 1,465 DNA Matches
Estimated relationship to you
Shared match
Estimated relationship to Martha Fernandez
2nd cousin - 2nd cousin once removed
1.9% (136.6‎ cM)
0.5% (34.1‎ cM)
Debbie Mitman (born Friedman)
3rd - 5th cousin

Private User
10/19/2021 at 8:45 AM

Please help Martha about GedMatch

Private User
10/19/2021 at 8:46 AM

I have created this discussion for Mitchell and Dawn to use for discussing and analyzing there DNA connections.
https://www.geni.com/discussions/239445

Mitchell and Dawn, please post all comments on that topic there, not here.
I will respond to you there, unless you indicate THERE that you would prefer I didn't.

Private User
10/19/2021 at 9:03 AM

Sorry about the link. Wonder if it's a bug, since the image was public?

Golda Rose Levy Burke , at least for the Bloom family, many of the gravestones have already been photographed. Unfortunately, they don't have their Hebrew names: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/71960429/david-walter-bloom

Lois, if we believe the affidavit, David Walter Bloom's father died "shortly after" David left Russia. Whether "shortly after" is 1 month, 1 year, or some longer period, I don't know.

David was 14ish when he left Russia and 52ish when he filed the affidavit, so "shortly after" may be relative. For the purposes of the affidavit, it was enough that David's father was long deceased. David Walter Bloom states that someone questioned his right to vote in 1910, at which point he forwarded a copy of his father's papers, and then sometime subsequent to that (perhaps shortly before he filed the new citizenship application and affidavit?) someone had questioned his father's papers.

It would be nice to find David's father's papers (though in the 1890s they'd be of limited detail) and David's father's death record. I found a death record for a man I believe could be David's father, but it's dated 1911. I don't know if David's father dying "shortly after he left" in 1894 rules that out or not.

Private User
10/19/2021 at 9:38 AM

I don't believe your document in 1911.

Private User
10/19/2021 at 9:39 AM

Herbert Bloom had three wives as Freida Kamm, Rose Pota spelling? and unknown

Private User
10/19/2021 at 10:19 AM

No. I am related to Freida Kamm as common Ancestor. I have no ideas about Judy Drosd's common ancestor for Rose Potisk.

Private User
10/19/2021 at 1:59 PM

Mitchell, the 1911 document may belong to someone else -- I'm not sure. Just someone with the same name living in the same town in Lithuania. There was at least one other person in the same town with the same name who died in 1878, so it may have been a family name that was reused by several cousins.

Private User
10/19/2021 at 2:26 PM

Err, I guess the 1878 deceased man lived somewhere else.

But in any case, in the absence of a more definite death date and location, I can't be sure the 1811 death certificate belongs to the right Herzl. If David Walter Bloom did mean that his father died within a couple of years of his leaving Russia, then it's the wrong man.

10/19/2021 at 6:12 PM

I bought Rudolph's book from Amazon - should get it this week. Will see if it helps.

Private User
10/20/2021 at 2:21 PM

Let us know if it contains anything interesting, Golda Rose Levy Burke !

Meanwhile, re: "Bessie Kaplan" as possible mother of Sarah:
I found a ship manifest for a Sarah Blum of Kowno, age 18, arriving in Boston in November 1899 aboard the Maasdam. Sarah Blum's passage was paid by an unnamed brother and she was going to her cousin "L Kaplan" at 42 [Sa...?] St. in Boston.

Could it be this Sarah? Here is a direct link to the page at Ancestry (see line 4). https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7488/images/NYT715...

There is a 1900 census record for a boarder Sarah Bloom living with a Herman family on the same street as someone named Bessie Kaplan. (Not the street mentioned in the passenger manifest.) However,it's unclear whether this Bessie Kaplan has any connection to the Bloom family or whether it's pure coincidence. In any case, this Bessie Kaplan in Boston was the married name of someone married to Isaac Kaplan, so presumably it's not Sarah Bloom's mother.

Private User
10/20/2021 at 3:05 PM

I use AncestryLibrary. I do not have a paid Ancestry Account.
Can you edit the URL, insering "library" between "ancestry" and ".com" ?

Or give good directions for a search that finds it easily?

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