Maria Lucken

 Merken/ Maria Theissen by BEcker and others. b c 1659 d 1742

Mary Tyson.
White has "?married Jochim Huiskens", she wasn't sure?
She cites an entry in 1675 in the Reformed Church in Kaldenkirchen
of the baptism of "the little daughter of Jochim Huiskens
and Maria Doors w witnesses Thonis Huiskens and Nys Doors. (Niess?)
HOwever, no marriage record for this couple. White has "Maria
did marry Jan Lykens around 1683 at the time of their leaving
Germany to come to Germantown" (White, 1683)
Many think she is the wife of Jan Luckens/ Luykens / Lukens
who came to America.(Custer) (Krefeld Immigr) Jochim Huiskens/
Johann Lucken of Dahlen or Wickerath (:WHite, who thinks they
m around 1683)
But though American writers state that Jan Luckens' wife was Maria
Theissen, a sister to Reiner, (?)he found no indication that Jan m
more than once. He noted that Niepoth said Jan Luckens m Merken/ Maria
Gastes. Gudo Gotthoff wrote that Jan Luckns m lst Merken Gastes but
that he left her in Germanyu, just as Wilhelm Strepers had left his
wife, and shortly after coming to America he m Maria Theissen.
Jack Bowman, who is of this line, says "Earliest records say that
he married Marie Thiessen, sister to Reynier Thiessen...Many of
the documents refer to Jan's wife as Mary, but there are no
records of their marriage. Niepoth... concludes that his wife
was Mercken Gastes. This comes from a written document dated
6/15/1683, which was drwon up by the Lucken siblings in Krefeld."
"In 1995 a 'conclave' of Lukens researchers got together to decide
on their interpretation of all documents relating to Jans wife's
name. They concluded that she had to be Marie Tyson. Niepoth
may be correct if Jan was married bef leaving Krefeld and his
wife died. But they could not find any documentation for the
Gastes name. "
Niepoth says that Maria or Mercken is not mentioned among the sisters
of Reiner Theissen. He also presents evidence on who Johann Lucken
did marry. Bans published on 12 Sep 1679 in REformed Church in
Crefeld for "JOhann Simes of Gladbach and Merken Wilhelms of
Gladbach". A Rheydt power of attorney in 1683 says Merken Lucken
is daughter of married couple Wilhelm Lucken and Adelheid, and
her name appears in the Quaker wedding as Merken Willems. So she
definitely was not the daughter of Theiss Doors! Nieboth also
mentions that Wilhelm was related on his motgher's side to the
Ther Mehr family.
Jan Lykens was b in 1650/1, son of Wilhelm and Adelheid Lucken, and
grew up in Gladbach.
Luykens was one of the pioneer settlers of GErmantown in 1683. He
was constable of the town 1691-5, sheriff 1694-5, d. 1744. Brought
a Dutch Bible from Krefeld, one of his descendants still owns it.
His will dated 9th of 8th mo 1741 in Philadelphia's registry
of wills, his property includes the trappings of a linen weaving
profession and some books, a house and lot in Germantown, and
two hundred acres of land joining Spipenk.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villandra/OldGeocities/Web...

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Category:Krefeld%2C_Nordrhein-Westfalen

Biography =="According to Neipoth, Maria Tyson was a sister of Reiner Theisson, and thus one of the Doors children. She may have first married Jochim Huiskens as there is an entry in 1675 in the Reformed Church of Kaldenkirchen records for the baptism of "the little daughter of Jochim and Maria Doors with the witnesses Thonis Huiskens and Nys Doors. A marriage record for the couple has not been found, however.

"10. Maria Theisen, born about 1660; ?married Jochim Huiskens; married Johann Lucken of Dahlen or Wickerath about 1683; came to Germantown in 1683; died 1742, Germantown, PA."<ref>"The Descendants of Paulus and Gertrude Kusters of Kaldenkirchen, Germany and Germantown, Pennsylvania, the first four generations", Jean M. White, Editor; Publisher TheCastor Association of America, 1991; page 51</ref>
Maria did marry Jan Luykens around 1683 at the time of their leaving Germany to come to Germantown. Jan was born in 1650/51, the son of Wilhelm and Adelheid Lucken, and grew up in Gladbach. Jan bought 200 acres directly from Benjamin Furly, of Rotterdam, merchant, attorney of Jacobus van de Walle of Frankford am Main, Merchant through his attorney, Johannes Bleyckers of Crevelt, Meurs. The land was subject to a yearly ground rent of 8 rix dollars and the deed contained the clause that required John Lucken to transport himself and hisfamily to America. The land consisted of 50 acres, Lot 6 toward Bristol; 50 acres, Lot 16 toward Schuylkill; and 100 acres, Lot 3 in Krisheim. He sold Lot Six, Frankfurt Company, to Eve Bellonge of Germantown, tailor in 1697. This is the same lot that Arnold Kusters bought in1699 from Paul Engel. Neessgen (Agnes) was Maria's mother. "After her marriage to Theiss Doors which probably occurred around 1633-40, they became parents of eleven children."<ref>"The Descendants of Paulus and Gertrude Kusters of Kaldenkirchen, Germany and Germantown, Pennsylvania, the first four generations", Jean M. White, Editor; Publisher The Castor Association ofAmerica, 1991; page 48</ref>

"Jan and Maria had five daughters and six sons: 1. Elizabeth Luckens, born 28, 7th month 1684; married Edward White 25, 1st month 1717 Abington MM; died before 1744. 2. Elase/Elias Luckens, born 10, 5th month 1686; married John Cunnard/Cunrad 29, 5th month 1706; died before 1744...."<ref>"The Descendants of Paulus and Gertrude Kusters of Kaldenkirchen, Germany and Germantown, Pennsylvania, the first four generations", Jean M. White, Editor; Publisher The Castor Association of America, 1991; page 65</ref> In Germantown Jan served as constable of the town 1691-95, and as sheriff in 1694-95. Jan and Maria had five daughters and six sons:

Surname===FN01 Niepoth observes on names: <ref>Niepoth: p. 88</ref>

(1) In large portions of the Lower Rhineland, especially in the Mennonite areas, it was customary to give to the eldest children theirgrandparents' first names. Thus certain first names became the principal [surnames] of these families. With the method of the principal name custom we have the possibility of determining relationships when church records and other sources are lacking, relationships which would have to remain unknown were it not for our knowledge of this custom.
(2) Last names formed from first names at the end of the 17th century are not truly family names in the modern sense, but rather nothing more than the first name of the father placed second.
(3) If the surname is not always important, the form and spelling of the names is even less important.

The wife of J. Lucken was Maria Theissen (Mary Tyson) who is supposed to have been a sister of Reynier Tyson. Maria calls her oldest daughter Elizabeth. Since Reynier Tyson has a daughter of the same name, who later became the wife of Wilhelm Lucken, we may surmise that the Christian (first) name comes from the Theissen family. Unfortunately, for the time being we do not know the children of Rein. Theissen, just as we do not know his parents. The elimination of the Christian names from (or of ?) her family is therefore more difficult. But we may take it for granted that the name of Theissen is not a mere familyname in our modern sense; the family name of the father is nothing else than the first name of the father attached to the first name of hisson. This was done very often, particularly by the Mennonites. Therefore, Reiner and Maria would be the children of a certain Theiss, whose family name is unknown still. Jan Lucken and Maria Theissen have a son named Theiss. Theiss is an abbreviated form for Matthias. <ref name="Roberts"> Roberts: pp.163-164.</ref>

"Of the thirteen emigrants, six bore genuine family names, namely the three op den Graeffs, Lucken, Strepers and Kürlis." Theissen was not one of these six men which implies that the surname of Theissen is not a family name. <ref>Niepoth: Page 89</ref>
A 1681 marriage certificate discussed by Niepoth refers to the Krefeld wedding of Dirck op den Graeff and Nolcken Vijten. <ref name="Niepoth"> Niepoth: p. 88.</ref> Lijntijen Teissen was a sister of Maria. The surname of Lijntijen was Teissen is a variant spelling of her father's first name Theis or Matthias, so this is not a family name. The surname was usually created by combining the father's first name and sen or son. The father of Lijntijen is Matteis Peters (Dohrs) Doors.
In a Power of Attorney agreement dated 15 June 1683, Niepoth believes that Mercken Gastes is the wife of Jan Luicken. <ref name="Niepoth"> Niepoth: p. 91.</ref> Mercken is a variant of Maria. Johann Lucken was married to Merken Gastes. <ref>Niepoth: p. 92.</ref> Mercken is a variant of Maria. Niepoth basesthis relationship on the signatures of the two seen on the Power ofAttorney agreement. Jan Lucken married, about the time of his embarking for America, Mary, sister to Rynier Tyson, who accompanied him to Pennsylvania. <ref name="Jordan"> Jordan: Vol. 2, p.1470.</ref> It's also common in cases of earlier ancestors that the spelling of a name was not standardized and that the person him or herself would have used more than one. In those cases, we recommend choosing the spelling that is most recognizable to modern descendants ... [http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Name_Fields#When_conventions_changed_d...]Since Theissen is not a family name, this Wikitree guideline suggests a preferred LNAB spelling of Doors, which is a more familiar, modern variant of Dohrs.Priest-412 20:24, 21 December 2015 (EST)

Birth

: Date: ABT 1660 : SDATE 1 JUL 1660: Place: Kaldenkirchen, , , Germany <ref>Source: #S199 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page</ref>

Death

: Date: 1742 : SDATE 1 JUL 1742: Place: Germantown, Philadelphia, PA <ref>Source: #S199 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page</ref>

Sources ==# Niepoth, Wilhelm. The Ancestry of the Thirteen Krefeld Emigrants of 1683
# Jordan, John W., ed. Colonial Families of Philadelphia (Lewis Publishing Company, 1911.) # Niepoth, Wilhelm. The Ancestry of the Thirteen Krefeld Emigrants of 1683
# Roberts, Clarence V. Ancestry of Clarence V. Roberts & Frances A. (Walton)Roberts (Wiliam F. Fell Company, 1940.)

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Other Resources===[OR01] Dates:Two things to be aware of- Quakers didn't use the names of months, just the numbers (7 8m 1742for example), and until 1752, "8m" would have been October, not August, since the year started in March (1m). [http://www.genealogytoday.com/columns/recipes/tip14.html]

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FamilySearch has her as Maria Dohrs, not Theissen.

https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/LT3K-VJG

Maria Dohrs 1660–1742

Spouse:
Jan Lucken 1650 – 27 January 1744
Marriage:
12 November 1679 Holy Roman Empire

Children:
Elizabeth Lucken 1684–1717
Alice Lucken 1686–1726
William Lukens 1688–1740
Sarah Lucken 1689–1719
Jan Luken Jr 1691–1741
Mary Lucken 1693–1772
Peter Luken 1696–1741
Hannah Luken 1698–1762
Andrew Luken 1700–1749
Mathias Luken 1700–1741
Abraham Tyson Lukens 1703–1776
Joseph Tyson Luken 1705–1779

Parents:
Theiss Matthias Dohrs 1614–1663
Neesgen Agnes op den Graeff 1614–1691
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