Joan unknown

Joan, parents unknown, was the wife of Sir James Douglas of Hermiston and of Lothian. He was the son of William Douglas of Hermiston.

Sir James received the lands of Kincavil and Calderelece from King Robert I in 1315. He was the father of five children prior to his death circa 1323.

Their children

1. William (Sir) (Lordship of Dalkeith) Douglas m 1) Margaret de Graham 2) Elizabeth Maxwell
2. John (Sir) Douglas m Agnes
3. James Douglas d 1355, killed in action
4. Elizabeth Douglas m Thomas Somerville
5. Johanna Douglas m Hugh Gifford of Yester

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The below is from thepeerage website;

• Sir James Douglas of Lothian1
• M, #109191, d. before 20 April 1323
• Last Edited=23 Mar 2013

Sir James Douglas of Lothian was the son of William Douglas of Hermiston.2 He married Joan (?).2 He died before 20 April 1323.2

He lived at Midlothian, Scotland.1 In 1315 he was granted Kincavil and Calderclere by King Robert I.2

Children of Sir James Douglas of Lothian and Joan (?)

1. Sir John Douglas+1 d. c Jan 1349/50
2. James Douglas2 d. 1335
3. Elizabeth Douglas2
4. Sir William Douglas+1 b. b 1326, d. Aug 1353

Citations

• [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 310. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
• [S37] BP2003 volume 2, page 2786. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as

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Name: Joan /Douglas/ Source: #S-1801649134 Note: Source: #S-1801649134 Note:

Birth: Date: 1287 Place: Douglas,,Lanarkshire,Scotland Source: #S-1801649134 Note: Source: #S-1801649134

Note:

• Source S-1801649134 Repository: #R-1801649135 Title: OneWorldTree Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc
• AFN 91WP-NH
• [S511] #189 The Scots Peerage: Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, with Armorial Illustrations (1904-1914), Paul , Sir James Balfour, (9 volumes. Edinburgh: D. Douglas, 1904-1914), FHL book 941 D22p; FHL microfilms104,157-104,161., vol. 6 p. 339.

Links

• http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I77391&tree=...

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• Residence: Cavers, Roxburgh, Scotland
  • Reference: MyHeritage Family Trees - SmartCopy: Jul 21 2016, 19:45:06 UTC

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http://www.montyhistnotes.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I458...

Name Joan Stewart [1, 2, 3, 4]

• Born 1286 Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location
• Gender Female
• Died 1337
• Person ID I4584 MontyHistNotes_II Last Modified 5 Sep 2016

Family

James Douglas Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. Bef 20 Apr 1323, Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotkand

Children

• + 1. William Douglas, b. 1300, England d. Aug 1353, Murdered by William 1st Earl of Douglas/Scotland (Age 53 years)
• 2. James Douglas, b. 1304, Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland d. Aug 1335, Durham, Durham, England (Age 31 years)
• + 3. Joanna Douglas, b. 1314, Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. 15 Feb 1398, Scotland (Age 84 years)
• 4. Jane Douglas, b. 1317, Midlothian, Scotland
• + 5. John Douglas, b. 1320, Hermiston, Midlothian, Scotland d. 25 Jan 1350, Assasinated by David Barclay/Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland (Age 30 years)

Förnamn Joan of Scotland Jean Efternamn Douglas (either Joan Lovell or Joan Stewart) Douglas Efternamn vid födelse Princess of Scotland Halybarton

Joan married Sir James "The Black" DE DOUGLAS 6th Laird of Douglas, son of Sir William "Le Hardi" DE DOUGLAS 5th Laird of Douglas and Lady Elizabeth STEWART 580. (Sir James "The Black" DE DOUGLAS 6th Laird of Douglas was born about 1286 in Douglas Castle, Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland 9594 and died on 25 Aug 1330 by Moors in Spain, carrying Robert the Bruce's heart to Holy Land 9594.)

The below is from thepeerage website;

Sir James Douglas of Lothian1 M, #109191, d. before 20 April 1323 Last Edited=23 Mar 2013

    Sir James Douglas of Lothian was the son of William Douglas of Hermiston.2 He married Joan (?).2 He died before 20 April 1323.2

    He lived at Midlothian, Scotland.1 In 1315 he was granted Kincavil and Calderclere by King Robert I.2 Children of Sir James Douglas of Lothian and Joan (?) Sir John Douglas+1 d. c Jan 1349/50 James Douglas2 d. 1335 Elizabeth Douglas2 Sir William Douglas+1 b. b 1326, d. Aug 1353

Citations [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 310. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage. [S37] BP2003 volume 2, page 2786. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]

Note: Joan may well of been a possible legitimate or illegitimate daughter of King Alexander III. I say this because Joan is thought to have been born the same year that Alexander III of Scotland died. I suspect that the Mother may well of been Yolande of Dreux, Queen Consort of Scotland. Other indications that she was a Princess is shown that her name was Joan of Scotland or Joan Douglas of Scotland, having taken the surname of Douglas through marriage. This would make Joan a half sister of Joan the daughter of Yolande of Dreux's second marriage to Arthur II the Duke of Brittany. Yolande is thought to have been born in 1263 and to have died on 2nd August 1322. Therefore, it is my conclusion that Yolande would have been in her early twenties making her at an ideal age for giving birth to children. Yolande's reign or Tenure was from 1285–1286, adding further evidence to this conclusion.

Credit to HRH Prince Kieren de Muire Von Drakenberg.

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