Gilbert Venator, 1st Baron of Kynderton

Seen as son of Alix Adelaide Henry & Stephen Henry without citations.

Biography

Updated 3 June 2024

Gilbert de Venables, aka Gilbert the Hunter, was a Norman lord who participated in the Norman Conquest of England.

There’s at least a generation between the first known Gilbert de Venables and the 2nd.

From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Venables-25

Gilbert is said to have come from Venables, Normandy. He sometimes appears in records as "Gilbert Venator". His parents are unknown; a pedigree records him as a younger brother of Stephen of Blois, but this has not been verified with contemporary sources.[3]

He held the honourial barony of Kinderton, under Hugh d'Avranches (abt.1047-1101), Earl of Chester.[3]

Gilbert is noted in the Domesday Book of 1086 as holding numerous properties in Cheshire.[3][4] In 1093, he gifted property to the abbey of St Werburgh, as confirmed by a charter of the Earl of Chester, made sometime between about 1096 and 1101.[3][5]

Research Notes

The birth year is a guess and could be wrong by several decades. The only dates for Gilbert at this point is that he was living at the time of the Domesday survey, published in 1086, and that he gifted property to St Werburgh's Abbey in 1093.

The name of his wife and son is not known.

This Gilbert was the first Baron of Kinderton, and was rewarded with seventeen manors in all.

[He had two known sons, Gilbert II and Hamon. Gilbert II was born in c.1060, in Normandy. Hamon was born c.1064, in Normandy.]

notes

Gislebert Venator or de Venables was one of three brother s who came to England with Hugh Lupus, first Earl of Cheshire, Eng.

He was ancestor of the Barons of Kinderton, of whom Gislebe rt Venables of Cheshire is mentioned in 1180 as Gislebert V enator of Normandy, proving the connection between the Engl ish and French Venables, His French descendants bore argen t a bend azure fretty or for difference.

He was with William the Conqueror and his name is on the Roll of Battle Abbey.

Showing still further the proof of his French origin, Gislebert de Venables, on the division of the spoils after the b attle of Hastings, he received his share under the name o f Venator, and many English records refer to him under thi s name.

He received extensive estates and was one of the English Ba rons attached to the Earldom of Chester under Hugh Lupus, Earl of Chester.

(Ormerod)

"Gilbert de Venables (alias Venator), supposed to be of Venables in Normandy, and younger brother of Stephen, Count of Blois, according to the pedigree roll of Legh of Adlington. He was living in 1086, 1st Baron of Kinderton (Giselbert in Domesday Book). He was Norman grantee of Kinderton, Davenport, etc., pre 1086."

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Younger son of Eudo. Baron of Kinderton 1086.

Gilbert Venables, baron of Kinderton, had Newbold- Astbury, Brereton, Kinderton, Davenport, and Witton cum Twembrook."Domesday Book".

Source: Remains, Historical and Literary, Connected with the Palatine Counties of Lancaster and Chester: Volume 97 - January 1, 1876 Chetham Society.v- Publisher

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References

1. Ormerod volume 3 page 198. "Venables of Kinderton."
2. http://www.thornber.net/cheshire/htmlfiles/venables.html
3. https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~hwbradley/genealogy/aqwg1332.htm#21936 Cites
   1. Ormerod, George, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (London: Lackington, Hughes, Mavor & Jones, 1819.), 3:198, Family History Library, 942.71 H2or.
   2. Boyer, Carl, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Santa Clarita, California: C. Boyer, 2001.), p. 253, Los Angeles Public Library, 929.2 A141-2.
4. http://www.rgcrompton.info/origins/cr1066.html
5. https://cybergata.com/roots/5231.htm
6. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_de_Venables cites
   1. https://venablesancestry.wordpress.com/introduction/the-first-three...
   2. Sanders, Francis; Irvine, William Ferguson; Brownbill, J. (1896). The Cheshire Sheaf. Deesider Magazine.
   3. Society, Chetham (1876). Remains historical and literary connected with the Palatine counties of Lancaster and Chester published by the Chetham Society.
   4. Brereton, J. (1919). Brereton a family history. Рипол Классик. p. 8. ISBN 978-5-87100-689-4.
   5. Archaeologia, Or, Miscellaneous Tracts Relating to Antiquity. The Society. 1849. p. 58.
   6. "Gilbert the hunter | Domesday Book". opendomesday.org. Retrieved 17 September 2021.
   7. "1066info4: Gilbert of Venables - his life in Cheshire Version - Updated 19 March 2020". www.rgcrompton.info. Retrieved 17 September 2021.
7. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Venables-25 cites
   1. George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, 3 vols. 2nd ed., revised and enlarged by Thomas Helsby (Ludgate Hill, London: George Routledge and Sons, 1882), 3:198. < GoogleBooks >
   2. Robert Glover, The Visitation of Cheshire in the Year 1580 ... With Numerous Additions and Continuations Including ... The Visitation of Cheshire Made in the Year 1566 ..., The Publications of the Harleian Society, Visitation Series, vol. 18, edited by John Paul Rylands (London: The Society, 1882), p. 227, Venables, Baron of Kinderton. < Archive.Org >
   3. Ormerod, History of ... Chester, 3:187. < GoogleBooks >
   4. K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Domesday People: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066-1166, vol. 1, Domesday Book (Woodbridge, Suffolk: The Boydell Press, 1999), 212. < GoogleBooks >
   5. James Tate, editor, The Chartulary or Register of the Abbey of St Werburgh, Chester. Remains Historical & Literary Connected with the Palatine Counties of Lancaster and Chester, New Series, 2 vols. (The Chetham Society, 1920, 1923), vol. 79 (part 1) pp. 20. < Archive.Org >