Gerberge

Gerberga is born between 970 and 975.

Info from link : http://www.manfred-hiebl.de/genealogie-mittelalter/brabant_grafen_v...
This is a German report including the literature background reference.

-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerberga_of_Lower_Lorraine

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-http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIA.htm#GerbergaMLambertILo...
3. GERBERGA ([975]-27 Jan after 1018, bur Nivelles). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Karolus dux" was father of "Ermengardem et Gerbergam", and that "Gerberga soror Ermengardis" was mother of "Henricum seniorem de Bursella"[216]. The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "Gerbergam, filiam Karoli ducis Lotharingie" as wife of "Lambertus filius Reyneri comitis Montensis", specifying that Brabant (including Louvain and Brussels) was her dowry[217]. The Annales Hanoniæ name "Gebergam filiam Karoli ducis Lotharingie" as wife of "Lambertus…comes Lovaniensis"[218]. "Gerberga" is named as wife of "Lantbertum comitem, filium Ragineri Longicolli" in the Gesta of Gembloux Abbey when recording her husband's death, but her origin is not stated[219]. Sigebert's Chronica records in 977 that "Lantbertus" married "Gerbergam filiam Karoli ducis"[220], but this date must be incorrect. Richer records that "Karolum…cum uxore Adelaide et filio Ludovico, et filiabus duabus, quarum altera Gerberga, altera Adelaidis dicebatur, necnon et Arnulfo nepote" were imprisoned[221]. This suggests that Gerberga was not yet married at that date. The birth date of Gerberga is estimated on the basis of the likely birth date ranges of two of her presumed children by Comte Lambert.

m (991 or after) LAMBERT [I] Comte de Louvain, son of REGINAR [III] Comte de Hainaut & his wife Adela ([950]-killed in battle Florennes 12 Sep 1015).

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Gerberga de Lotharingia

Parents: Charles I de Lotharingia & Adelais de Troyes

Spouse: Lambert I, Comte de Louvain

Children:

1. Henri

2. Lambert

3. Matilde

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Profile already stitched up in extremis after a wicked cut.
Already waiting for a while, his first discussion, I'm curious to understand what he thinks of the primary sources presented by ML and if he intends to deny them thanks to genealogieonline*(source myHeritage) .. or the little more than a short draft wiki NL page:

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According to https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerberga_van_Neder-Lotharingen she was born around 980. According to https://www.genealogieonline.nl/families-klein-ree-ea/I43887.php she married Lambert van Leuven in 985 and had a daughter Mathilde in 984. This is contradictory.

We(Carl Gustav Verbraeken) think there could have been 4 Gerberga's 'de Lorraine':

@Gerberga I of Lorraine (*c.930), Gerberga of Lorraine Possibly the daughter of the first husband of Gerberga of Saxony, wife of the French king Louis IV:

@Gerberga II of Lorraine, (*c.955), wife of Lambert I van Leuven, first count of Brabant, Lady of Brussels and possibly daughter of king Louis IV:

@Gerberga III of Lorraine, (*c.980), daughter of Charles de France, duke of Lorraine and pretender to the French throne:

and possibly @Gerberga IV of Lorraine (died after 1030), mother of Reinier van Leuven: Messages and discussions will be started to reach a consensus about this issue, which hasn't been clarified for a long time. Carl Gustav Verbraeken, 2020/09/20

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Some theories give Lambert and Gerberga as the most probable parents of Robert de Brusse (Bruce), see sources.

LINKS

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIA.htm#CharlesdukeLowerLot...

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRABANT,%20LOUVAIN.htm#LambertILouv...

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert_Ier_de_Louvain

MEDIEVAL LANDS

GERBERGA ([975]-27 Jan after 1018, bur Nivelles). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Karolus dux" was father of "Ermengardem et Gerbergam", and that "Gerberga soror Ermengardis" was mother of "Henricum seniorem de Bursella"[213]. The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "Gerbergam, filiam Karoli ducis Lotharingie" as wife of "Lambertus filius Reyneri comitis Montensis", specifying that Brabant (including Louvain and Brussels) was her dowry[214]. The Annales Hanoniæ name "Gebergam filiam Karoli ducis Lotharingie" as wife of "Lambertus…comes Lovaniensis"[215]. "Gerberga" is named as wife of "Lantbertum comitem, filium Ragineri Longicolli" in the Gesta of Gembloux Abbey when recording her husband's death, but her origin is not stated[216]. Sigebert's Chronica records in 977 that "Lantbertus" married "Gerbergam filiam Karoli ducis"[217], but this date must be incorrect. Richer records that "Karolum…cum uxore Adelaide et filio Ludovico, et filiabus duabus, quarum altera Gerberga, altera Adelaidis dicebatur, necnon et Arnulfo nepote" were imprisoned[218]. This suggests that Gerberga was not yet married at that date. The birth date of Gerberga is estimated on the basis of the likely birth date ranges of two of her presumed children by Comte Lambert.

m (991 or after) LAMBERT [I] Comte de Louvain, son of REGINAR [III] Comte de Hainaut & his wife Adela ([950]-killed in battle Florennes 12 Sep 1015).

LAMBERT [I], son of REGINAR [III] Comte de Hainaut & his wife Adela [von Dachsburg] ([950-killed in battle Florennes 12 Sep 1015). The Annales Hanoniæ name "Lambertus…comes Lovaniensis" as son of "Rignerii comitis Montensis"[26]. The Gesta Episcorum Cameracensium records that "Rainerus atque Lantbertus, filii…Raineri", who had been banished by "archiepiscopus Bruno", returned to their father's lands after the death of Emperor Otto I and besieged "super Hagnam fluvium castrum Bussud", but that Emperor Otto II ordered their exile again[27]. The Annales Leodienses, Floressienses et Marchianenses record that "Raginerus et Lantbertus" (sons of Reginar [III] Comte de Hainaut) returned from exile in 973 and killed "Guarnero et Rainaldo", who occupied their father's county, "apud Perronam" and besieged "super Hagnam fluvium castello Buxude"[28]. Thietmar records that "Lantbertus, Reinherii filius…cum fratre…Reingerio" killed "Wirinharium et eius germanum Reinzonem"[29]. Sigebert's Chronica records that in 977 "filii Ragineri" were "in terra partum suorum relocati"[30], which presumably marked the beginning of their rehabilitation. He established himself as LAMBERT [I] "le Barbu" Comte de Louvain. He is named "comite Lovaniæ Lantberto" in a charter dated 1003[31]. The Annales Colonienses specify that "Lambertus comes" returned into favour with Heinrich II King of Germany in 1007[32]. The Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium records the death in battle of "Lantbertus comes" at Florennes[33]. "Lantbertum comitem, filium Ragineri Longicolli" is named in the Gesta of Gembloux Abbey when recording his death in battle at Florennes against "Godefridum ducem"[34], although the reference to "Ragineri Longicolli" is anachronistic.

m (991 or after) GERBERGA, daughter of CHARLES Duke of Lower Lotharingia [Carolingian] & his wife Adelais de Troyes ([975]-27 Jan after 1018, bur Nivelles). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Karolus dux" was father of "Ermengardem et Gerbergam", and that "Gerberga soror Ermengardis" was mother of "Henricum seniorem de Bursella"[35]. The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "Gerbergam, filiam Karoli ducis Lotharingie" as wife of "Lambertus filius Reyneri comitis Montensis", specifying that Brabant (including Louvain and Brussels) was her dowry[36]. The Annales Hanoniæ name "Gebergam filiam Karoli ducis Lotharingie" as wife of "Lambertus…comes Lovaniensis"[37]. "Gerberga" is named as wife of "Lantbertum comitem, filium Ragineri Longicolli" in the Gesta of Gembloux Abbey when recording her husband's death, but her origin is not stated[38]. Sigebert's Chronica records in 977 that "Lantbertus" married "Gerbergam filiam Karoli ducis"[39], but this date must be incorrect. Richer records that "Karolum…cum uxore Adelaide et filio Ludovico, et filiabus duabus, quarum altera Gerberga, altera Adelaidis dicebatur, necnon et Arnulfo nepote" were imprisoned[40]. This suggests that Gerberga was not yet married at that date. The birth date of Gerberga is estimated on the basis of the likely birth date ranges of two of her presumed children by Comte Lambert.

Comte Lambert [I] & his wife had three children:

1. HENRI de Louvain ([992/1000]-Brussels murdered 1038 after 5 Aug, bur Nivelles). The Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium names "Heinricus Lantberti filius"[41]. The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Gerberga soror Ermengardis" was mother of "Henricum seniorem de Bursella"[42]. The Gesta of Gembloux Abbey records that "filio suo comite Heinrico" supported his mother's donation to Gembloux after the death in battle in 1015 of his father "Lantbertum comitem, filium Ragineri Longicolli"[43]. He succeeded his father in 1015 as HENRI [I] Comte de Louvain. The Chronicon Sigeberti records the death in 1038 of "Henricus Lovaniensis Comes" and the succession of "filius eius Otho" who was deprived by "patruus eius Baldricus qui et Lambertus"[44].

m ---. The name of Henri's wife is not known. Henri & his wife had four children:

a) OTHON (-after 1038). The Chronicon Sigeberti records the death in 1038 of "Henricus Lovaniensis Comes" and the succession of "filius eius Otho" who was deprived by "patruus eius Baldricus qui et Lambertus"[45]. No other information relating to Othon has been found after this date.

b) ADELAIDE . The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names "Adeleidam, Chunegundem et Adelam" as daughters of "Henricus filius Gerberge"[46].

c) CUNEGONDE . The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names "Adeleidam, Chunegundem et Adelam" as daughters of "Henricus filius Gerberge"[47].

d) ADELA . The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names "Adeleidam, Chunegundem et Adelam" as daughters of "Henricus filius Gerberge"[48].

2. LAMBERT [Baldric] de Louvain (-after 21 Sep 1062, bur Nivelles). The Vita Sanctæ Gudilæ records that "Lambertus…comes" succeeded his brother Henri[49]. He succeeded his brother in 1038 as LAMBERT [II] Comte de Louvain, after depriving his nephew of his rights.

- see below.

3. MATHILDE de Louvain ([992/1000]-). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Henricum seniorem de Bursella [=filius Ermengardis]" was father of "Lambertum comitem et Henricum fratrem eius et Mathildem sororem eorum", specifying that Mathilde married "comes Eustachius de Bolonia"[50], but this appears to be a confused representation of the situation. The primary source which confirms that Mathilde was the daughter of Comte Lambert [I] has not yet been identified but this is compatible with the chronology. Her birth date range estimated from the estimated date of her parents' marriage and the likely birth date of her eldest son in [1015/20]. This shows that it is chronologically impossible for Mathilde's father to have been the son of Ermengardis of Lower Lotharingia.

m EUSTACHE Comte [de Boulogne], son of BAUDOUIN Comte [de Boulogne] & his wife Adelais of Holland (-[1049]). He succeeded in 1042 as Comte de Boulogne.

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WIKIPEDIA (Eng):

Gerberga of Lower Lorraine, Countess of Louvain, was the daughter of Charles, Duke of Lower Lorraine, himself the son of Louis IV of France and Gerberga of Saxony. She married Lambert I, Count of Louvain and had a daughter, Matilda or Maud, who married Eustace I, Count of Boulogne.

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Gerberge de Basse-Lorraine is the daughter of Charles, Duc de Basse-Lorraine.

Children of Gerberge de Basse-Lorraine and Lambert I, Comte de Louvain

Maud de Louvain+

Lambert III, Comte de Louvain+ b. c 995, d. a 21 Sep 1062

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Gerberga of Lower Lorraine, Countess of Louvain, was the daughter of Charles, Duke of Lower Lorraine, himself the son of Louis IV of France and Gerberga of Saxony. She married Lambert I, Count of Louvain.

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Gerberga of Lower Lorraine, Countess of Louvain, was the daughter of Charles, Duke of Lower Lorraine, himself the son of Louis IV of France and Gerberga of Saxony. She married Lambert I, Count of Louvain.

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Gerberga of Lower Lorraine

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Gerberga of Lower Lorraine, Countess of Louvain, was the daughter of Charles, Duke of Lower Lorraine, himself the son of Louis IV of France and Gerberga of Saxony. She married Lambert I, Count of Louvain and had a daughter, Matilda or Maud, who married Eustace I, Count of Boulogne.

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http://www.thepeerage.com/p391.htm#i3907 Gerberge de Basse-Lorraine F, #3907, b. 975, d. 1018 Last Edited=7 Jul 2018

    Gerberge de Basse-Lorraine was born in 975.1 She was the daughter of Charles, Duc de Basse-Lorraine and Adelheid (?)1 She married Lambert I, Comte de Louvain, son of Reginar III, Duc de Haute-Lorraine and Adèle de Toxandrie.1 She died in 1018.1 Children of Gerberge de Basse-Lorraine and Lambert I, Comte de Louvain Mathilde van Leuven+ Henri I, Comte de Louvain+2 d. 1038 Reinier van Leuven+3 Lambert II, Comte de Louvain+2 b. c 995, d. 19 Jun 1054 Citations [S3268] Hans Harmsen, "re: Chester Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 21 August 2008. Hereinafter cited as "re: Chester Family." [S37] BP2003 volume 2, page 2691. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37] [S8569] Ranulph Fiennes, Agincourt, My family, the battle and the fight for France (London: Hodder & Stoughton, 2014). Hereinafter cited as Agincourt. ____________________________

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Gerberge of Lorraine1,2,3 Last Edited 4 Apr 2020 F, #6283, b. circa 975, d. after 27 January 1018 Father Charles, Count of Lower Lorraine1,3 b. 953, d. 21 May 992 Mother Adelaide of Vermandois Charts Some Descendants of Charlemagne (#1) Some Descendants of Charlemagne (#2)

    Gerberge of Lorraine was born circa 975. She married Lambert I 'the Bearded', Count of Mons, Louvain, son of Regnier III, Count of Hainault, Duke of Upper Lorraine and Adele of Toxandrie, circa 990.1,3 Gerberge of Lorraine died after 27 January 1018; Buried at Nivelles.1 Family Lambert I 'the Bearded', Count of Mons, Louvain b. c 950, d. 12 Sep 1015 Children	 Heinrich I de Louvaine+1 d. a 5 Aug 1038 Landrade de Louvaine+ Lambert II, Count of Louvain & Brussels+1 b. c 991, d. a 21 Sep 1062 Mathilda de Louvain+1,3 b. c 993 Citations [S2] Detlev Schwennicke, Europaische Stammtafeln, New Series, Vol. I/2, Tafel 236. [S1260] Unknown author, Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles by Gerald Paget, Vol. I, p. 57. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 463. ______________________________________________----