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About Ermengarde, Queen of Burgundy
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermengarde_of_Burgundy
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ERMENGARDE (-25 or 27 Aug after 1057).
As noted above, a family relationship between Ermengarde Queen of Burgundy and Humbert [I] "blancis manibus" Comte de Maurienne is suggested by her appointment of the latter as her "advocatus" in dealings relating to her property (see charters quoted above). Ermengarde’s second marriage is confirmed by Thietmar, who records that "King Rudolf's wife" commended to Emperor Heinrich II her two sons, stepsons of her husband, at a meeting at Strasbourg in 1016 but does not name them[607], read together with the charter dated 1019 in which "Ermengarda regina et filii mei Ugo et Willelmus" are named[608].
- The Chronicon Hugonis names "Ermengardis" as wife of "Rodulfus rex", specifying that she was childless, but does not give her origin[609].
- "Rodolfus…rex" gave "sponsæ meæ Irmingardi" the town and county of Vienne by charter dated 24 Apr 1011[610].
- "Rodolfus…rex" names "Irmingarda regina coniuge nostra" in a charter dated 28 Jul 1011[611]. "Rodulfus rex" names "Irmingarda coniuge mea" in a charter dated 14 Jan 1029[612].
- A possible indication of her origin is provided by the charter of "Ermengart regina" dated 1033 for the soul of "Rodulfi regis" under which she donated land "in pago Genevense" to Cluny[613], although it is impossible to confirm any relationship with the families of the counts of Geneva whose earliest attested male progenitor is Gerold Count of Geneva who, if related to Ermengarde, would have belonged to a subsequent generation. "Ermengardis regina" donated property "…loco sepulture patris mei [et]…in villa Jalzinium" to Saint-André-de-Bas at Vienne "pro redemptione animis senioris mei Radulfi regis" by an undated charter[614].
- "Ermengarda vidua regina, uxor quondam Rodulfi regis" made a donation to the church of Grenoble by charter dated 20 Sep 1057[615]. The necrology of Savigny records the death "VIII Kal Sep" of "Ermengardis regina Vienne que dedit Tallueriensem"[616].
- The Aymari Rivalli De Allobrogibus records the death "VI Kal Sep" of "Ermengarda uxor Rodulphi regis" and her burial at Vienne[617].
m firstly --- (-before 1011). The identity of Ermengarde’s first husband is not known. Europäische Stammtafeln[618] identifies him as Rotbald [II] Comte de Provence, son of Boson [II] Comte d'Arles & his wife Constantia [de Vienne]. Presumably this is based on the charter dated 1019 which is signed by "Ermengarda regina et filii mei Ugo et Willelmus"[619], assuming that "Willelmus" was the same person as Guillaume [V] Comte de Provence, son of Comte Rotbald [II]. However, this co-identity is far from satisfactory. There are two main problems. Firstly, the sons are ordered "Ugo et Willelmus" in the 1019 document, which suggests that Hugues was the older son. However, no other reference has been found to Comte Guillaume [V] having an older brother named Hugues, which in any case is not a name which is found in the family of the comtes de Provence. Secondly, Comte Guillaume [V] is named with his wife in a charter dated 992 which, if correctly dated, shows that he could not have been born much later than [975]. If that is correct, his mother would have been too old in 1011 to have married King Rudolf III, who was presumably hoping for an heir as he was childless by his first marriage. Europäische Stammtafeln appears to find a way around these difficulties by stating that Ermengarde was the wife of "Rotbald [III]" who, it says, was the son of Comte Rotbald [II][620]. However, no primary source has been found which confirms that this Rotbald [III] Comte de Provence ever existed.
m secondly ([24 Apr/28 Jul] 1011) as his second wife, RUDOLF III King of Burgundy, of CONRAD I "le Pacifique" King of Burgundy [Welf] & his second wife Mathilde de France [Carolingian] (-5/6 Sep 1032, bur Lausanne Cathedral).
Ermengarde & her first husband had two children:
a) HUGUES (-after 1019). "Ermengarda regina et filii mei Ugo et Willelmus" signed a charter dated 1019[621]. Thietmar records that "King Rudolf's wife" commended to Emperor Heinrich II her two sons, stepsons of her husband, at a meeting at Strasbourg in 1016 but does not name them[622]. The identification of these two brothers as the sons of Comte Rotbald [II] assumes that Comte Rotbald’s supposed third wife Ermengarde married secondly Rudolf III King of Burgundy, which as explained above is not proven beyond doubt.
b) GUILLAUME (-after 1019). "Ermengarda regina et filii mei Ugo et Willelmus" signed a letter dated 1019[623]. Thietmar records that "King Rudolf's wife" commended to Emperor Heinrich II her two sons, stepsons of her husband, at a meeting at Strasbourg in 1016 but does not name them[624]. The identification of these two brothers as the sons of Comte Rotbald [II] assumes that Comte Rotbald’s supposed third wife Ermengarde married secondly Rudolf III King of Burgundy, which as explained above is not proven beyond doubt. As far as Guillaume is concerned, it seems unlikely that he was the same person as Guillaume [V] Comte de Provence who, as a middle-aged adult, would not have needed to be "commended" to the emperor by his wife in 1016. In any case, it seems unlikely that Rotbald would have given the name Guillaume to the second of the sons when his older half-brother, the future Guillaume [V] Comte de Provence, was still alive as shown above.
Ermengarde, Queen of Burgundy's Timeline
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August 27, 1057
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Vienna, Vienna, Austria
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