Elizabeth de Bryan

Biography

the Pope granted a dispensation for Hugh [le Despenser] to marry Elizabeth de Montacute, the daughter of the Earl of Salisbury, Edward III’s closest friend. In the dispensation, the Pope noted that the petition had received the king’s support. Elizabeth was the widow of Giles de Badlesmere and had no children from the marriage. Her age is unknown, but her parents were married in or before 1327, and her brothers were born in 1328 and 1330; most likely, then, she had married Badlesmere as a child and was still quite young when she married Hugh. Why Hugh had waited so long to marry is unknown, but he had been in a peculiar position: his status as the son and grandson of the two most hated men in the country in 1326 must have limited his marriage opportunities among the nobility, while his status as a kinsman of the king and his prospects of wealth must have made him most particular about his choice of bride.

Source: Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families, in 5 vols. (Salt Lake City, Utah, 2013), Vol. II, page 446.

After the death of Hugh Le Despenser, his widow, Elizabeth de Montagu, married (3rd) before 10 July 1350 (as his 2nd wife) Guy de Bryan (or Brian), K.G., son and heir of Guy de Bryan, by [Gwenllian, daughter of Gruffudd ap Lloyd.] [sic] He was born about 1309. They had three sons, Guy Knt., William, Knt., and Philip.

Comment: more likely his mother was Ann or Alice Holwey. Guy de Bryan’s second wife was Crisli verch Gruffudd, not her sister Gwenllian verch Gruffudd. They were the daughters of Gruffudd ap Rhys, nicknamed Llwyd. See P. C. Bartrum: Welsh Genealogies AD 300-1400, Marchudd 17 (document attached)

Guy de Bryan Married (2) before 10 July 1350, Elizabeth Montacute/Montagu (Born 1308/9, died 31 May 1359), daughter of William of Montacute earl of Sarum, widow of Giles lord Badlesmere (died 1338) and of Hugh le Despenser.

Their children:

• Margaret de Bryan, married John Erlegh
• Guy le fitz de Bryene/Bryan (born 1354, died 1386) married Alyse de Burns
• William de Bryan, 2nd son, d.s.p., born about 1357, died 23 September 1395, buried Seal, Kent) married Joane, who survived him.
• Philip de Bryan, 3rd son, d.s.p. before 14 February 1388.

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Nichols, John Gough. The Herald and Genealogist (Nichols and Nichols, Printer to the Society of Antquaries, London, 1863-1874) Vol. 1, Page 523 < GoogleBooks >

Some of the families to whom these shields belong were certainly connected by alliance. The renowned Sir Guy de BRYAN, elected K.G. 1370 and summoned as a Baron to Parliament from 1350 to his death in 1390,* married for his second wife the lady Elizabeth MONTACUTE, daughter of William first Earl of Salisbury. On his well-known monument in the abbey church of Tewkesbury the arms of Bryan and Montacute are impaled. By the Lady Elizabeth he had a daughter, Margaret, the wife of Sir John Erlegh, who in 40 Edw. III. attended the Black Prince in his campaign in Spain, and was present in the battle of Naziers.

References

1. The complete peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom : extant, extinct, or dormant. by Cokayne, George E. Vol 2, page 361-2. “BRYAN or BRIENE.” < Archive.Org >
2. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Montagu-107 cites
   1. Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), Vol II, p 1, BRYAN #10ii
   2. Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 92-93. < GoogleBooks >
   3. Sutton Poyntz Village website
   4. Beltz, George. Memorials of the Order of the Garter (William Pickering, London, 1841) Page 181
   5. Nichols, John Gough. The Herald and Genealogist (Nichols and Nichols, Printer to the Society of Antquaries, London, 1863-1874) Vol. 1, Page 523
3. < Stirnet: Bryan1 >