Charles Weatherford, Indian Trader

Not the same as Charles Weatherford

Disputed Origins

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Weatherford-112

Martin Weatherford is not the ancestor of the Muskogee Indian William Weatherford. Martin’s son Charles was banished in 1782 with his father. William’s father was a Scots immigrant.

Of note: An absolute boatload of Bahamian DNA testers trace back to Martin and Isabella Weatherford on WikiTree, but none of them match the listed descendants of William Red Eagle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Weatherford

William Weatherford was born in 1781 (Griffith Jr. analysis), near the Upper Creek towns of Coosauda.[1]:p. 5[note 1][note 2] It is near the current Coosada, Alabama, and was then a Koasati Indian town, near Hickory Ground (current Wetumpka, Alabama).[citation needed] His mother was Sehoy III, a "daughter of a Tabacha chieftain" and from "the most powerful and privileged of all the Creek clans," the Wind Clan[1]:p. 3f (in Creek, Hutalgalgi[citation needed]). His father, Charles Weatherford, was a red-haired Scots trader and friend of the chieftain, and had married Sehoy III after the death of her first husband, Tory Col. John Tate, in the summer of 1780. … Charles Weatherford had a trading post near the Creek village, built a plantation, raised thoroughbred horses for racing, and contributed to his family as a trader.[citation needed]

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Biography

http://alabama-genealogy.angelfire.com/CharlesWeatherford.htm

Born: ; Married: about 1780 in Alabama; Died

Trader. He lived at his horse track on the Alabama River, about 5 mile upriver from Sehoy. It was customary for Indian couples to live separately and Charles kept the custom with Sehoy.

James Albert Pickett tells this story in The History of Alabama: In 1792, Creeks frequently attack homes on the Cumberland. They captured a young girl named Elizabeth Baker and brought her back to Coosawda, after murdering her family before her eyes. Across the river, Charles Weatherford heard of the girl and ransomed her back, putting her in the care of Sehoy (III), his wife.

Their children are:

1. William Weatherford , or Lamochattee -- Red Eagle, born about 1781. See his family page. Married 1st-Mary Moniac. Married 2nd-Sopathe Thlanie. Married 3rd- Mary Stiggins. William Weatherford died 1824.
2. John "Jake" David Weatherford, born about 1783 in AL. Married about 1802 in AL to Patty Dyer (b. about 1785), sister of Margaret Dyer who was the 2nd- wife of David Tate. Their children were: John D. Weatherford (m. 1st-Elizabeth Tunstall; m.on 6-09-1864, Monroe Co., AL, to 2nd- Elizabeth Waller with Johnathon English as security and A. J. Lambert as minister); #Caroline Weatherford (b. about 1805; m. ? Killiam). John Weatherford assisted General Andrew Jackson during the Creek War. Given a land grant by Jackson. John and his family lived in Monroe Co., AL. and he appears on the 1854 tax list.
3. Rosanna Weatherford, born about 1789 in AL. Married in 1789 in Baldwin Co., AL to Captain Joseph Shomo. They lived in Monroe Co., AL. Their children were: David Tate Shomo (b. about 1809.; became a physician; m. Elizabeth Nettles Hobbs), Joseph Weatherford Shomo (b. about 1811; became a physician; m. 1st-Mary Elizabeth Wheadon; m. 2nd-Anne Tarke Moniac, widow of Dr. Alexander Moniac), James Preston Weatherford (b. about 1813), Francis William Shomo (born about 1815), Virginia Elizabeth Rosanna Shomo (b. about 1817), William Augustus Shomo (b. about 1819; m. Margaret Ione Staples), Frances Blount Shomo (b. about 1821). Dr. Marion Elisha Tarvin, her nephew, said, "I well recollect Aunt Rosannah and Capt. Shomo, having often been at their house. She was woman of great force of of character. She was born in the upper part of Baldwin county, Ala., near where rests the remains of her warrior brother, William the 'Red Eagle".
4. Elizabeth Weatherford, born about 1785 in AL. Married Samuel Takkes-Hadjo Moniac about 1802 in Baldwin County, AL. See his Moniac page. Sam was born about 1781 in AL. Their children were: David Moniac (m. Polly Powell; Their children were: David Alexander Moniac, sheriff of Baldwin Co., AL and d. 1880; Margaret Moniac,m. S. J. McDonald. From Dr. Marion Elisah Tarvin: "under the treaty at New York, was graduated at West Point. He was made a major and commanded 600 Creeks and Choctaws against the Seminoles in the Florida war of 1836. He was killed, 13 bullets piercing his body. A braver man never lived."), Alexander Moniac, Levitia Moniac (m.William Sizemore of Baldwin Co., AL, son of Dixon Baily's sister. William became a wealthy planter on the Alabama River. Levitia "Vicey" and William had children).
5. maybe Washington Weartherford, born about 1787, Baldwin Co., AL.

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Sehoy Tate, the sister of Gen. McGillivray, after the death of her husband in 1779, married Chas. Weatherford, an Englishman who came to the Creek Nation some years prior to 1778, from Georgia. He was a man of means and was a government contractor, and constructed and owned the first race courses in Ala. From this marriage they.had five children; three sons and two daughters, namely: William (the warrior), John, Elizabeth, Washington and Rosannah. The Sehoy the second, sister of Alex. McGillivray, was an extraordinary woman, if only from the fact of being the mother of three very remarkable personages; David Tate (the writers grand-father), William the Chief, and Rosannah Weatherford.

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/i/e/Belinda-K-Pierce/G...

Notes for CHARLES WEATHERFORD: Charles was a Govt. Contractor. He was the first owner of the first race Courses in Alabama. He was a Scottish Trader who also had a half blood mother. Charles married an Indian wife. He lived at his Horse Track on the Alabama River, which was about five miles upriver from his wife Sehoy. I understand that it was customary for Indian Couples to live in separate housing, so Charles kept that custom with Sehoy. James Albert Pickett tells the story in the History of Alabama: In 1792, Creeks frequently attacked homes on the Cumberland. They captured a young girl by the name of Elizabeth Baker and brought her back to Coosawda, after murdering her family before her eyes. Across the River, Charles Weatherford heard of the girl and ransomed her back, putting her in the care of Sehoy his wife. Charles had come to the Creek Nation prior to 1778 and shortly after the close of the American Revolution, in company with Samuel Mims, who was once engaged with George Galphin in the Indian Trade. He was also an old friend of Lachland McGillivray. In later years Alexander McGillivray would be instrumental in the arrest of Charles which he was imprisoned in Florida on 3 Dec 1786. But Alexander then saw the hardship that this had on Charles' wife Sehoy and the family, that he then wrote a letter to get Charles released in 1788. Afterwards Charles would never be able to continue a relationship with Alexander and did everything in his power to discredit Alexander. Some researchers claim Charles to be a Scotsman. Charles died in Fort Bennin Military Reservation of Ga. Later to become known as the Kylo Place which was just south of Columbus, Ga. Which was just two miles south of the Coosa and Tallapoosa Rivers.

This is from the Calender of State Papers & other Manuscripts. Dated from 1 Jan 1785 to 7 Jul 1789. In the Virginia Historical Index (4c183) Call # Uv 455. "Lookout Mt. Ye 15th of Oct. 1786, Sir, We have very little news on this quarter, only I saw Mr. Martin a few days ago on his way from the Creek Nation. He informs me that he has made a lasting piece with the Creeks for Cumberland. He was in company with Charles Weatherford, two Creeks and a Linquestor. The French hear carry a very high hand, and I expect in a very short time will draw all the Indians off to their interest. They sell them the best Diffle Blankets for one otter skin or two pounds of Beaver fur which is much cheaper than we can purchase them at Augusta. If the States don't do somthing shortly the American Traders must give over al pretensions of Trading in future, and give up the traid to Detroit where those French traid to. I am S'r,y'r most H'ble Serv't John A. Dare"

More About CHARLES WEATHERFORD: Burial: Unknown, Buried On Woolfolks Hill, Georgia

References

• Papers of the War Department (1784-1800). https://wardepartmentpapers.org/s/home/item/2555. “Charles Weatherford. Trader, Scotch or English, married McGillivray's half sister. Possibly father of Chief William Weatherford.”
• https://www.alabamapioneers.com/biography-william-weatherford-born-... “ Charles Weatherford, a thrifty Scotch peddler, met, admired, and married this buxom grass widow. He made his home on the Alabama River, a little below the junction of the Coosa and Tallapoosa Rivers. He prospered in store and farm; bought negroes and fine horses; constructed his far-famed race-track, upon which he trained his blooded steeds. His native tact, his marriage with Sehoy, the half-sister of McGillivray, his race-track, and his prosperity made him a popular man and drew about him the powerful and martial spirits of the tribes. In his home of plenty was born and reared his distinguished son William, who was called Lamochattee, the Red Eagle. ….”
• http://genealogytrails.com/ala/baldwin/bios/william_weatherford.html
• https://www.historynet.com/crockett-and-the-creek-war-we-now-shot-t... “Red Eagle’s father was Scot fur trader Charles Weatherford, his mother Sehoy, Creek half-sister of mixed-blood soldier-statesman Alexander McGillivray, former principal chief of the Upper Creeks. Sehoy’s status in the prominent Wind Clan placed her son, born circa 1780, into a natural leadership position in the Creek’s matrilineal society. …”
• *Benjamin W. Griffith, McIntosh and Weatherford, Creek Indian Leaders (University of Alabama Press, 1998) ISBN 0-8173-0340-5 (Page 252, 253)
• Native Americans, The McGillivrays, Weatherford, David Tate and Sam Moniac stories about them from 1874