Adelvia ‘Helvide’ de Courtenay

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Adelvia ‘Helvide’ de Courtenay

Also Known As: "Helvide", "Adelina"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Courtenay, Loiret, Centre, France
Death: September 14, 1205 (56-76)
Courtenay Castle, Yonne, Bourgogne, France
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Renauld de Courtenay, Seigneur de Courtenay and Helvide ‘Hawise’ du Donjon, Dame d'Yerres
Wife of Alwalon lll, Seigneur de Saignelay
Mother of Daimbert de Saignelay
Sister of Élisabeth de Courtenay

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About Adelvia ‘Helvide’ de Courtenay

Not the daughter of Reginald I de Courtenay, 1st lord of Sutton


From Peter Stewart, post at SGM, 27 January 2003 < GoogleGroups > “Parents of Elisabeth de Courtenay”

The following account of the first Courtenay family's last generations was given, largely from earlier secondary sources, in _Histoire généalogique et chronologique de la Maison royale de France..._ by Père Anselme (Pierre de Guibours) & others, third edition, 9 vols (Paris, 1726-33), vol I pp 474 and 527-8:

  • 1 Miles, seigneur de Courtenay, died after 1127 [NB actually in or after 1138 when he last occurs], married ca 1095 Ermengarde de Nevers
    • 2 (their third son) Renaud, seigneur de Courtenay, allegedly married an unnamed sister of Guy du Donjon [who is stated wrongly to have been living in 1148], also described as daughter of Frederic, seigneur du Donjon
      • 3a Elisabeth, died 14 September in or after 1205, married Pierre de France (ancestors of the second French Courtenay line)
      • 3b Unnamed daughter, died sp, married Avalon, seigneur de Saillenay


From Peter Stewart, SGM, 8 November 2019:

https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/psv2U0Vkd-s/m/...

The name of Elisabeth's sister who married Augalo II of Seignelay was either Adelina or Adelvia - her name was given in a charter for Saint-Jean de Sens abbey dated 1194, read as Adelvia by a copyist in 1729 but as Adelina by the archivist of Auxerre in 1882.

A charter of her husband dated 1190 is not helpful about this, as he referred to her by initial only, "laudavit A., uxor mea".

They had sons named Dainbert and Frederic: it's interestig that the latter name doesn't appear before this in the Seignelay or Courtenay families and possibly came from the step-father of Adelina/Adelvia, Frederic of Donjon, seigneur of Yerres.


https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/psv2U0Vkd-s/m/...

The ordinal of her husband should be III, not II, and his name is variously given as Augalo[n], Argalo[n], Avalo[n], and perhaps other forms. It was clearly Agalo on his seal, see here:

http://www.sigilla.org/fr/sgdb/empreinte/7092

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Adelvia ‘Helvide’ de Courtenay's Timeline

1129
1129
Courtenay, Loiret, Centre, France
1205
September 14, 1205
Age 76
Courtenay Castle, Yonne, Bourgogne, France
1943
June 5, 1943
Age 76
June 5, 1943
Age 76
June 5, 1943
Age 76
November 17, 1943
Age 76
November 17, 1943
Age 76
November 17, 1943
Age 76
1946
January 14, 1946
Age 76
January 14, 1946
Age 76