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About Adelise de Peverell
PDF doc of Devon from The Complete Peerage Posted in Sources. Relevant pages – 310-311.
Preface to FMG Post
Anyone hoping for a discovery showing that William 'the Bastard' fathered a daughter before he married Matilda, please.reconsider. :
- Robert I, Duke of Normandy, left one male heir: William. William was a child when his father died.
- William had guardian protectors who had been loyal to Duke Robert I. They kept William away from most Norman aristocrats who battled each other for control and status.
- Many historians, past and present, agree that William the Conqueror was faithful to his wife, Matilda of Flanders, for life. Who among the aristocracy anywhere prized fidelity in the 11th century?
- All legible 11th century manuscripts from Normandy were published long ago. It's fools gold to hope for new primary sourced information about William the Conqueror or Ingelric.
- The year 2028 will mark c.1,000 years since William was born. Dugdale researched multiple transcripts 400 years ago. His magnus opus Monasticon was published sometime before his death 1686.
Untitled English Nobility P - S: Peverel Families of Hatfield, Essex and Nottingham This hyperlink should work. It does for me. If it doesn't work for you, try this link and click Perevel.
Ranulf Peverel of Hatfield, Essex (? – after 1085).
- Domesday Book records “Ranulph Peverel” holding Ewelme in Oxfordshire; numerous properties in Essex[226].
- married [Ingelrica], daughter of INGELRIC & his wife ---] (? – [1100]).
- Dugdale records that Ingelrica, wife of Ranulf Peverell "who had been mistress to King William the Conqueror…is stated to have founded…in the time of King William Rufus a college of secular canons dedicated to St Mary Magdalen" at Hatfield Peverell which she entered and stayed until her death "about the year 1100"[227]. He does not reproduce the primary source which provides the basis for this information.
- Eyton says that, according to Dugdale, "her relationship with William (then Duke of Normandy) predated her marriage" and that Duke William was the father of her son William Peverell.[228]. [Note: Actually, Eyton compellingly argues much more than FMG chose to include. See posted PDF showing the Dugdale reference (with no source added to his first paragraph) and the entire Eyton response.]
- 'The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.
Ranulf & his wife had [three] children:
1) WILLIAM Peverel (? – 28 Jan 1114). Orderic Vitalis records that William I King of England constructed “Snotingeham castrum” [Nottingham] and entrusted it to “Guillelmo Peverello”, dated to 1068[229]. Domesday Book records “William Peverel” holding properties in Buckinghamshire; numerous properties in Northamptonshire; several properties in Derbyshire; numerous properties in Nottinghamshire[230]. A charter of King Henry II records donations to York St Mary, including the donation of land “in Rudstan” by “Willielmus de Peverel”[231]. “…Willelmo Peverello…” witnessed the charter dated Sep 1093 under which William II King of England donated property to Lincoln cathedral[232]. Henry I King of England confirmed the donation of the church of Lenton to Cluny, by charter dated to [1103/14], which records “Willelmo Peverello cum uxore sua Adaleida et filio suo Willelmo” as founders of the church and is subscribed by “Mathildis regine, Willelmi Pevrelli de Notingaham, Adeline sue uxoris, Willelmi Pevrelli filii illorum, Ro[berti] comitis Mellentis, Gisleberti de Aquila…Roberti fratris Willelmi Pevrelli, Simonis comitis, Stephani comitis de Alber”[233]. “Robertus de Laceio” founded Pontefract Priory, for the soul of “Hylberti patris mei et Hawisiæ matris meæ”, by undated charter witnessed by “W. Peverel…”[234]. The Cartulary of the Priory of St James, Northampton records the death “V Kal Feb” of “Willi Peverell fundatoris”[235]. m ADELINE, daughter of ---. Henry I King of England confirmed the donation of the church of Lenton to Cluny, by charter dated to [1103/14], which records “Willelmo Peverello cum uxore sua Adaleida et filio suo Willelmo” as founders of the church and is subscribed by “… Willelmi Pevrelli de Notingaham, Adeline sue uxoris, Willelmi Pevrelli filii illorum…”[236]. “Willelmus Peverellus” donated land “juxta Picheseie” to Colchester St. John, with the advice of “matris mee A.”, by undated charter[237]. The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Adeline mat[ri Will Peur] de Noting" in Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire[238]. The Cartulary of the Priory of St James, Northampton records the death “XIV Kal Feb” of “Adelyne uxis ei” (immediately after that of “Willi Peverell fundatoris”)[239]. William & his wife had four children:
- i) ADELISE ([1075/80] – after 27 May 1156). "Adeliz de Redveris" donated property to the abbey of Loders, Dorset, for the souls of "patris mei…Willelmi Pevrel de Notingeham…et matris mee Adeline", with the consent of "filiorum Baldewini et Willelmi de Vernone et Roberti de ---…et nepotum meorum Ricardi de Reveris, Henrici atque Willelmi", by undated charter, witnessed by "…Stephanus de Magnevilla…Willelmus Avenel…"[240]. Her husband’s name is confirmed by another charter under which “Adeliz de Reviers” donated property to “abbatie sancte Marie Monteburgi”, for the soul of “domini mei Ricardi de Reviers”, also undated[241]. The chronology of her descendants suggests that she must have been born not later than [1075/80]. "Adeliza de Reviers" wrote to Goscelin Bishop of Salisbury, by charter dated to [1142/55], notifying him of her donation to the abbey of Sainte-Marie, Montebourg of property which "her father William Peverel of Nottingham" gave with her to "Richard de Reviers"[242]. m RICHARD de Reviers, son of GUILLAUME de Vernon & his wife Emma [de Crépon] (? – 8 Sep 1107, bur Abbey de Montebourg).
- ii) WILLIAM Peverel (? – 1100). The Cartulary of the Priory of St James, Northampton records the death “XVI Kal Mai 1111” of “Willi filii dci dni Willi Peverell”, another manuscript recording the year as 1100[243]. Assuming that the death date of his father and the estimated birth date range of his sister Adelise are both correct, it is unlikely that 1111 could have been the correct year of William’s death, considering that his parents had another son named William who was presumably born after the older William died.
- iii) MATILDA Peverel (? – after 1129). The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Mathildi sorori Willi Peur de Noting" in Northamptonshire[244].
- iv) WILLIAM Peverel ([1100/05] – after 1155). Henry I King of England confirmed the donation of the church of Lenton to Cluny, by charter dated to [1103/14], which records “Willelmo Peverello cum uxore sua Adaleida et filio suo Willelmo” as founders of the church and is subscribed by “… Willelmi Pevrelli de Notingaham, Adeline sue uxoris, Willelmi Pevrelli filii illorum…”[245]. Considering the likely estimated birth date of William’s sister Adelise, it is unlikely that William could have been born much later than the earliest years in the 12th century. This therefore suggests that “Willelmi Pevrelli filii illorum” in the charter dated to [1103/14] could not refer to the older brother of this William Peverel junior, whose death is recorded elsewhere (see above). “Willelmus Peverellus” donated land “juxta Picheseie” to Colchester St. John, with the advice of “matris mee A.”, by undated charter[246]. The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Wills Peur de Noting" in Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire in respect of "Forest"[247]. King Stephen named “Willielmo Peverello juniori cum uxore sua Oddona et filio suo Henrico” in his charter relating to Lenton Priory[248]. Ralph de Diceto records that "Willelmus Peverel de Notingeham" was disinherited in 1155 for poisoning "Ranulfo comiti Cestriæ"[249]. The 1156 Pipe Roll records "Willi Peurelli de Notingen" in Nottinghamshire, with a revenue of ₤175, and the 1157 Pipe Roll "Willi Peurelli" in Nottinghamshire[250]. In 1155, Henry II King of England confiscated the properties of William Peverel, who retired to a monastery[251]. m firstly ODDONA, daughter of ---. King Stephen named “Willielmo Peverello juniori cum uxore sua Oddona et filio suo Henrico” in his charter relating to Lenton Priory[252]. m secondly ([1140/45]%29 [as her first husband,] HAWISE de Lancaster, daughter of --- (? – after [1188/89]). “Avisia de Lancastria, uxor Willielmi Peverel” donated property to Derley Priory by undated charter[253]. The Complete Peerage which speculates that the wife of William Peverel was Hawise, daughter of Roger de Montgommery Lord of Lancaster & his wife Almodis Ctss de la Marche[254]. This is not an ideal fit. Her supposed father Roger was banished from England in 1102 and retired to La Marche, so it is unclear why Hawise would have been described as “de Lancastria” in a charter which must have been dated about 40 years later. In any case, the chronology is also unfavourable. It is unlikely that the wife of Roger de Montgommery, Almodis de la Marche, was born much later than 1070, given the known chronology of her family, which means that her children would have been born before 1110 at the latest. On the other hand, it is likely that William Peverel’s second marriage should be dated to the early 1140s at the earliest, as his first wife is named in one of the charters of Stephen King of England (who succeeded in 1135). Such a marriage date is late if his second wife was born in the early 1100s, and impossible assuming that his widow was the same person who married Richard de Morville and had children by him in the late 1150s. According to Domesday Descendants, she married secondly Richard de Morville (no corresponding primary source cited)[255]. The primary source which confirms that the widow of William Peverel was the same person who remarried Richard de Morville has not yet been identified. Domesday Descendants states that the wife of Richard de Morville was Hawise de Lancaster, daughter of William de Lancaster (no corresponding primary source cited)[256]. As can be seen from the chronology of William de Lancaster’s known wife Gundred de Warenne, this affiliation would only be possible if Hawise had been born from an otherwise unrecorded earlier marriage. On the other hand, the onomastics are favourable, as each succeeding generation of this "de Lancaster" family included a Hawise de Lancaster. "Avicia de Lonc spouse of Richard de Morevilla, with the consent of William her heir and her other heirs" confirmed a donation to Furness St. Mary by charter dated to [1188/89][257]. William & his first wife had [two] children:
- (a) HENRY Peverel. King Stephen named “Willielmo Peverello juniori cum uxore sua Oddona et filio suo Henrico” in his charter relating to Lenton Priory[258].
- (b) [MARGARET ([1123/26] – ?). “Robertus comes de Ferrariis” granted property “in Stebbingis…per Margaretam comitissam uxorem meam” to Morice FitzGeoffrey by charter dated “VI Kal Oct IV anno imperii Regis Stephani” (1139)[259]. Her parentage is suggested by the charter of John King of England which names “Willelmo de Ferrariis comiti” as heir to territories of “Willelmi Peverell”[260]. If this parentage is correct, Margaret is unlikely to have been born outside the narrow date range shown above, which would also indicate that her marriage took place only shortly before the date of this charter. m (before 1139) ROBERT Ferrers Earl [of Derby], son of ROBERT de Ferrers Earl [of Derby] & his wife Hawise --- (-before 1160, bur Merevale Abbey).]
2. ROBERT Peverel (? - after 1103). Henry I King of England confirmed the donation of the church of Lenton to Cluny, by charter dated to [1103/14], which records “Willelmo Peverello cum uxore sua Adaleida et filio suo Willelmo” as founders of the church and is subscribed by “…Roberti fratris Willelmi Pevrelli…”[261].
3. [RANULF Peverel (? - after 27 Jan 1091). "…Ranulfus Peverellis…" witnessed the charter dated 27 Jan 1091 under which William II King of England confirmed the status of Bath abbey[262]. Assuming that the dates attributed to William, son of Ranulf Peverel, are correct as shown above, it is unlikely that Ranulf who witnessed this charter was William’s father. It is assumed therefore that he was another younger brother of William who is unrecorded elsewhere.]
Please see Darrell Wolcott: Ancient Wales Studies.org "Welsh Origins of the Peverel Family" http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id50.html. (Steven Ferry, April 15, 2020.)
Tudor Place: Richard de Vernon (Seigneur de Reviers)
Tudor Place may be a nice website. However, it seldom provides primary and secondary sources to validate the data. Consequently, the website too often lacks substantive sources, though it may help one valid sources.
Born: bef. 1086
Died: 8 Sep 1107
- Notes: The Shipbrook Vernons of Cheshire had risen to the top of the Cheshire aristocracy, Sir Richard de Vernon having been chosen the second baron in the ranks of Earl Hugh Lupus, cousin of the Conqueror, among the Earl's original establishment in 1087 A.D. Four barons were chosen. The first in rank was Sir William de Venables. The third was Sir Hugh de Malbank. Later, these families intermarried.
Father: William de Vernon
Mother: Emma FitzOsbern
Married: Adelise Peverel
Children:
- Baldwin de Vernon
- William de Vernon
Adelise de Peverell's Timeline
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Nottinghamshire, England (United Kingdom)
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Sainte-Mère-Église, Manche, Normandy, France
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1095
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Vernon, Eure, Normandy, France
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1096
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Vernon, Eure, Normandy, France
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1098
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Normandy, France
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1100
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Cornwell, Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire, England (United Kingdom)
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May 27, 1156
Age 87
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Isle of Wight, England (United Kingdom)
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1190
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Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England (United Kingdom)
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