ATTENTION Curators, please assist

I just took a look at [Margaret Legh, of Clifton Margaret Legh] she is my 17th great grandmother. Perhaps someone with knowledge could edit the about me and make the children of the second marriage a list (via formatting); I at least am having a hard time tracking the children and their marriages in the paragraph.

She is my 17th great gr-mother also -

Here is a 4 gen report to help you all out since I am working on another project as of now:

Ancestors of Margaret Danyers

Generation No. 1

1. Margaret Danyers, born 1347 in Cheadle, Cheshire, England; died 24 Jun 1428 in Clifton, Cheshire, England. She was the daughter of 2. Thomas Danyers and 3. Isabel Baggalegh. She married (1) John Savage 1365 in Cheadle, Cheshire, England. He was born 1343 in Cheadle, Cheshire, England, and died 1386 in Cheadle, Cheshire, England.

Generation No. 2

2. Thomas Danyers, born 1325 in Cheadle, Cheshire, England; died 24 Jun 1349 in Bradley, Appleton, Cheshire, England. He was the son of 4. Thomas Danyers and 5. Margaret De Tabley. He married 3. Isabel Baggalegh 1347 in Cheadle, Cheshire, England.
3. Isabel Baggalegh, born 1325 in Cheadle, Cheshire, England; died 1364 in Cheadle, Cheshire, England.

Child of Thomas Danyers and Isabel Baggalegh is:
1 i. Margaret Danyers, born 1347 in Cheadle, Cheshire, England; died 24 Jun 1428 in Clifton, Cheshire, England; married John Savage 1365 in Cheadle, Cheshire, England.

Generation No. 3

4. Thomas Danyers, born 1285 in Tabley, Cheshire, England; died 1374 in Tabley, Cheshire, England. He was the son of 8. William Danyers and 9. Agnes De Legh. He married 5. Margaret De Tabley 1304.
5. Margaret De Tabley, born 1295 in Tabley, Cheshire, England; died 1330.

Child of Thomas Danyers and Margaret De Tabley is:
2 i. Thomas Danyers, born 1325 in Cheadle, Cheshire, England; died 24 Jun 1349 in Bradley, Appleton, Cheshire, England; married Isabel Baggalegh 1347 in Cheadle, Cheshire, England.

Generation No. 4

8. William Danyers, born 1250 in Tabley, Cheshire, England; died 1306 in Tabley, Cheshire, England. He married 9. Agnes De Legh 1270 in West Hall, High Legh, Cheshire, England.
9. Agnes De Legh, born 1279 in West Hall, High Legh, Cheshire, England; died in Cheshire, England. She was the daughter of John De Legh and Matilda De Arderne.

Child of William Danyers and Agnes De Legh is:
4 i. Thomas Danyers, born 1285 in Tabley, Cheshire, England; died 1374 in Tabley, Cheshire, England; married (1) Margaret De Tabley 1304; married (2) Margaret De Tabley 1312.

Jacqueli...why don't you paste this to her profile with a source?

Yes, she's my 17th great grandmother also :)

I did add some sources to William Danyers and Agnes de Legh "the daughter" when I worked on them this morning. I'm sure there are other sources, but I found a history of that county in Google Books which was enough to clarify the William Danyers spouse question.

Anita - I formatted the children as a numbered list. 17 children with her second husband and 3 children with her third husband. Wow. I'm not the curator and haven't looked at the sources, but this is quite something. It's explicit which children with which husband and easier to read now, although you have to expand the About Me by clicking on "More".

Margaret Legh (Danyers) is my fifth cousin 17 times removed. Common ancestor is the Musgraves, one of the families that link me with many of the curators. Good family. Scots border people.

Anita M. Boynton Why don't you join the Legh/Leigh Project? I can invite you.

I noticed that Margaret Legh, of Clifton had undergone an odd name change. She was born a Danyers and married three times. I restored her name to her maiden name Danyers. With three husbands, unless someone can show that she went by her married name in 1300s and show WHICH married name she went by, it seems odd to have her be shown as Legh. What do you all think, looking at her About Me?

Wow, I was gone for a few hours and look at the changes! You have all been busy.
She's my 17th great grandmother also

Married to (1) Sir John Radcliffe, (2) John de Savage, and (3) Sir Piers de Legh. I guess if we can prove that she was known by her last married name, she'd be a de Legh.

You should also join the Legh/Leigh Project Eldon.

The sources are listed on the project document page but it is Burke's Peerage, the Visitations of Shropshire and Cheshire, and The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant

The problem is that the print out that Jacqueli provided only documents one of Margaret Danyers' three husbands. Depending upon what you are trying to do with a report, you get a different subset of "facts" and I assume that this is a lineage for Jacqueli through John Savage??? I haven't studied it carefully but it lists only spouses and children relevant to a particular lineage.

Hatte, thanks for the invite, but I will pass...since you appear to be part of that project, perhaps you could add Margaret to it?

I am not real interested in working on profiles of people born in the 1300's unless it is part of a clean up project or a subject project like the Civil War. I have too many blanks in my personal tree, plus commitments on other projects I do have interest and input in to add another project to my plate.

Okay Anita. I like being a generalist with specialty areas.

@Hatte I think I just sent what was discussed on the tread - but I do have all of her info - but the sources listed - Burke's Peerage, the Visitations of Shropshire and Cheshire, and The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant - are the only relevant sources to accurately correct the entire line at this era - I will try to pitch in when I can - right now I can't but I also but some notes back on the project discussions about the problem areas about 2 weeks back - but deferred my focus on to other areas as of Saturday - but Eldon and a few others have really pitched in - there were so many bad merges it was a nightmare - remember my "crux of the matter" post? that is what I meant by that - glad you are back helping :)

Me, too, Hatte...I just have zero interest in that era, so I have little to offer. Now ask me to work on a Civil War or Mayflower project, and I will be all over that!

Jacqueli Charlene Finley
Carole is back on Geni now. Eldon has joined the project. I know Alexander is working on the family. Between us, we will manage while you work on the Finleys. I have a lot of other irons in the fire but I'll do some work on this over the next few days.

Enjoy your other areas.

Dear Curator,

Could you please look at:

Mary Whitney

I don't believe that there is any evidence to support her being the child of John and Elizabeth Kendall. It would appear more likely that she is part of the Kettle family, but I have no direct evidence of that, either. Most sources on the Whitney side list her parentage as unknown, so I think this merge was in error.

In any case, as currently structured, the merge can not be completed as all possibilities split the tree.

Thanks,
Jessica German

Could someone please separate Maria Clemens from her parents who are born 130 yrs after her...an obvious LDS data entry error. Mary's maiden name is unknown. Thanks for your help.

Mary Clemens (Bartholomew) done

Hatte: I had a long response almost completed to your questions this morning re: Danyers/deLegh...then an emergency...and it failed to save. I am going to summarize.
1) Agnes de Legh ended up back with William Danyers
2 There is no good documentation on this families during this years
3) de Legh's say Agnes was not married to Danyers and Danyer's family say she was.
4) Here is a fair tree for the Danyer family : http://www.deloriahurst.com/deloriahurst%20page/1549.html

My thinking on this mush is that Agnes jr is actually the one that is partnered to William Danyers (no proof); that the second Margery is a result of the 70 year difference in Agnes' birth year; I did not see an extra son John Danyers. I saw one, a sister-in-law Joan, and John de Legh. Maybe I missed him somewhere?

Also I wanted to thank all who were helping out in this area. It is not pretty, but we appreciate everyone's efforts. Thanks!!!

http://books.google.com/books?id=jdIVAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA7&dq=Wil...

Alexander - this is the Transactions of the Historic Society of Lancashire and Cheshire ..., Volume 31 By Historic Society of Lancashire and Cheshire.

This is the source that says that the DAUGHTER of Agnes de Legh married William Danyers. And that her name was also Agnes de Legh. This appears to be to be a good source. Would you please provide sources as well. Please read this source carefully.

In general I take people's Internet family tree websites, such as the one above with a large grain of salt unless they are accompanied by primary and secondary sources and excellent notes. I only rely upon them when there is nothing else.

http://books.google.com/books?id=fd4EAAAAQAAJ&dq=Agnes%20de%20L...

This is William Danyers' will which mentions various family members including children and his wife, Agnes.

Hatte Rubenstein Blejer you are correct - Agnes de Legh was married to William Danyers - earlier on the tree before the fixes William was attached to the wrong Agnes - from what I recall - Agnes that married William de Venables - if you could attach the link to the Agnes in question - maybe that is where the Agnes that Alexander sees and the one you see are different - and then I can look up what I have - would that help????

I think that the William Danyers and Agnes "the daughter" de Legh situation is fine. There's still some issues with their children. Clearly previous merges had merged the mother and daughter and had likely merged other generations together, due to similar names.

I'll post the link of the daughter in a second. And of Williams Danyers.

Agnes "the daughter" de Legh

her husband William “of Bradley” Danyers

Ormond gives 4 children: Thomas, William, Margary, Agnes.

William Danyer's will which I found online mentions Henry, Agnes, Magot (Margaret), and Cecily.

The Geni tree still has 2 Margerys and a John. One of the Margerys is wrong or duplicative. And the Agnes has a bad birth date. I am moving slowly because in some cases different people have been merged and before I delete the fielded data, I try to figure out if I need to reconstruct another person who has been merged erroneously.