ATTENTION Curators, please assist

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Rev. Nathaniel Brewster

Poor old Nathaniel needs some help. Please fix this profile.

Dear Curators: The new policy allowing CURATORS access to my family tree without my permission has destroyed over 2.5 years of painstaking work. Profiles that I did not wish to merge with any of the idiots conducting "research" out there were unceremoniously hijacked, apparently to force my participation in the grand scheme to create some kind of world family tree. My nice little tree (under 300 entries) is now cluttered with seemingly hundreds of extra entries connected to tens of thousands that I do not wish to show up or be connected to in any way. The new profiles that show up in addition to my well-researched and documented ones are an insult to all my hard work and I am PISSED, to say the least. None of the 50 CURATORS associated with this breach of my privacy have been of help and I feel violated, to say the least. I want ALL the duplicate profiles to be removed from my family tree that were not part of my original research - and I want to be left alone! Who the hell do you think you people are to interfere with my work? Please help me identify the one MAIN person (head of this CURATOR group or GENI official) that can help and I will darken your doorstep no further.

Bruce we are on opposite ends of the spectrum. I have put in over two years of work too, but I am glad to be a part of the world tree and a great group of collaborators. I am controlling my tree by adding sources and only merging with collaborators, so then I am able to edit the mistakes. If I cannot edit a profile I do my best to remove it from my tree. People who do not collaborate should not be able to merge profiles. I would support a setting on Geni that allows a person to keep their tree private, so it would not be visible to others, nor could their profiles be combined by them or anyone else. If this person saw a profile they wanted to add to their private tree they could just copy the information into their tree. I hope Geni will consider this option for everyone's satisfaction.

its been stated over and over - that geni's goal is the BIG TREE - once you join GENI you are no longer a "Private researcher"

You should have all your work - backed up in a program ON YOUR COMPUTER -

GENI is a PUBLIC site not a PRIVATE site -

NO ONE can stay isolated from the tree no matter how hard they try -

And sorry all of us out here in GENI land are not IDIOTS - I take offense to this and I hope alot of others do so to as well as the hard working curators -

If you wanted non-interference of your work you should of found another on line program such as TNG (The next Generation) and I am sure there are a few others I am unfamiliar with - to put your research into -

Good luck

Bruce, I am not at all impressed by your ranting, nor am I impressed by your claimed 2.5 years worth of "painstaking". research. I have been researching for over 25 (no decimal point) years, have a database of 5500+ on my private computer and am happy to share with anyone. Jeni is a sharing process and if you don't want to share, pack up and leave. I'm sure you will be greatly missed, NOT. I also resent being called an idiot as I'm sure anyone else on Geni is. What a childish rant yours was!

Leslie - Done! : )

Bruce - At the risk of increasing the size of the target on me, I feel the need to comment.

Name calling and profanity aren't appropriate here. They also aren't productive.

Call me a foolish idealist, but I believe that we as people, and what we create here, are *improved* upon by the collaborative process.

I believe that building each other up is always better than tearing others down.

Thanks Jenna! You're awesome!

OMG do you not understand PRIVATE??? Bruce it is your choice to remain either with us or private, grow up and use your head instead of pointing your fingers! This gets so rediculous! To everyone else "JOBS WELL DONE!!!"

Private User

This person has not been on-line since August 2007 and there are a lot of entries connected to my husbands tree. Can someone free these up?

Thanks

Sandra, since you had not reported her, I did. Not much else you can do except wait for Geni to act. You might put her in the http://www.geni.com/projects/Abandoned-trees

Ok thanks, I've done that.

Can someone please help me? I did a big boo boo. : (

I've started my own tree with a Geni Pro account in the last couple days and invited my aunt to the tree to help me with some things. I accidentally invited her through the email address of her other account here at Geni (our family tree), she accepted the invite and now our profiles / trees are merged. I realize now that I should have invited her via a different email account to keep the trees separate (I'm still learning). Can someone please help me to UNCONNECT our trees ASAP? Neither one of us wanted the trees connected and it's causing some real issues.

I appreciate your assistance! I REALLY need help to undue this merge.

I have since deleted all my work in my Geni Pro tree down to my mother only in my tree to try to avoid any other merge issues that might happen. I can't delete my mother because she's the one that we're connected through.

It's my aunt (my mother's sister PATRICIA) that I invlted to the tree who needs to be unmerged (taken out of) my tree. That will separate our trees again & I can invite her back via a different email account so she can be in my tree without the other tree being merged with mine.

Thanks SO MUCH in advance for the help! It's greatly appreciated!

Hi Tracy

Curators work in the historical tree - public profiles. There might some tricks that some curators can provide as knowledgeable users of the application, but you should also reach out to Geni Customer Service through http://help.geni.com/ (the help footer at the bottom of every page).

I know very little about private profiles personally. <

Thanks so much Erica! : )

Sorry if I posted in the wrong place. It would be great if there was a way for me to undo this merge myself. If anyone here knows of a way to do that (any tricks of the trade), please let me know. I will also reach out to customer service.

Have a great day everyone!

There are quite helpful techie users who may very well be along to help out Tracy! But I think because of the email / account set up issues you may need Customer Support in any event ...

Thanks again Erica!

Just as an FYI (for anyone who might be interested), I contacted customer service and they told me that the merge cannot be undone. Therefore, the only way that I can start fresh is by canceling this account and starting with a new one. So, that's what I'm going to do.

That's the long & short of it. ; )

Take care & thanks again!

Help! I have a peron deleting my managed profiles. So far 50 profiles deleted.

The person who is doing this is Private

David - Thank you for bringing this to our attention!

Unfortunately, we don't have any power to stop vandalizing.

We can, however, do our best to help you pick up the pieces.

I am currently undeleting them. What is strange is that they were able to delete some even though I was the only manager of the profile.

David Dyer; if I'm not mistaken blocking him should also stop deletions

:-)

How do you do that?

sorry but just noticed that due to the recent changes you can't block every such user
:-(

That is curious. (And unnecessary!)

Have you run across this user before? Any idea what got them disgruntled? Or when?

I just spent most of the night repairing mass devastation in the Mayflower lines. This is getting out of control!

it was under actions/options tab

@Jenna, No idea. I shared accesswith a him o na couple of profiles. Never really did anything beyond that.

SL has closed his account. Looks like he was trying to remove some of "his" tree before he left. Ofir we did not change the rules on blocking. Jenna it's too late now that he has closed his account, but curators can report him for vandalism.

Jenna, curators HAVE access to stop vandalism. Just check the report options on the user and the details in the welcome as a new curator document and the wiki page.

Undoing merges are one of the top priority issues in Geni. Stay tuned.
You should however remember Geni's goal: one profile per person, so ALL profile duplicates will be merged.We have only one tree: Ours. Geni is not a place fro individual trees.

I wondered if that was it, trying to remove "his" tree. There is so much confusion when people share management or collaborate. They don't understand that their actions - duplicating profiles, ad hoc deletion of profiles, destruction of information on profiles - is not just affecting "their" tree but the tree of hundreds or thousands or even tens of thousands of other users.

The Mayflower passengers for example might have 14 million descendants and I would bet that there are some historic profiles from Colonial America with 1000 descendants on Geni.

I wonder how we can help prevent this through Education as Jenna preaches?

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