ATTENTION Curators, please assist

I'm sorry, I listed an incorrect link the first time, trying again:

I have found two Master Profiles that apparently need to be merged and am hoping someone can help so I can keep my files clean:

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Catherine Tolman

Could a curator please merge these duplicate master profiles:
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Sir Richard de Radcliffe, Knight
Thanks

Martin - these are the 3 curators involved in the Richard de Radclyffe master profiles. Send your message to each of them, and they'll sort it for you.

Angus Wood-Salomon

Erica Howton

http://www.geni.com/people/Bj%C3%B8rn-P-Brox/285725352490006131?thr...

Jennifer, send a message to each of the curators on those profiles, and they'll fix it for you.

1) Geni should provide private sections that other users could read, but not merge or alter, just so "Global Tree" users didn't lose such valuable resources of research of people who are designing a tree with a specific or personal specifications such as only information that the account owner has documented and verified, etc.

2) Geni should provide private area profiles with an option for each entry to "Update/Append information to Global Tree" for all users and "Update/Append information from Global Tree" for the owner/manager of that private tree.

Otherwise, all Geni.com users are losing valuable resources of trees that are created by some stellar researchers. Allowing them a method to maintain the purity of their research while also providing a reference library of privately created trees would be beneficial and ideal for all users.

Thank you,
Neil

Sharon, - I always back out even if I am the manager of some other curator attach themselves as a curator of a profile and the general rule is the we never merge master profiles unless both curators are involved in the decision.

Personally I would never mark empty profiles like this as a Master Profile because MP should be a quality maker, but that is another discussion.

Neil, - documents and sources you add to a profile is "private" and is probably the most important part you should add to a profile to avoid confuses and bad merges.

Bjørn we're eager to move toward a system that allows for publicly-shared documents, however to Neil's point the profile revision history demonstrates that we're rapidly closing in on a system that never loses data, even when another user comes through and wipes out all your hard work. Once we're fully there, it's just a matter of getting the tools and policies in place that allow for personal expression / contribution while supporting the highest quality information on every profile.

Is there still a problem with entering dates?

We've released fixes for the dates problems -- feel free to reply here if you continue to have problems.

Is there a way to set my dates so they view as Day / Month / year ? I am so used to doing my dates that way (since 1976) that sometimes I transpose the month and day fields ( 12/6/1957 should be 6 Dec 1957, not 12 Jun 1957)

Unfortunately we don't currently have a setting for the date format when we display them on the site -- we created a roadblock by allowing translators to create date translations for other languages (e.g. if you switch your language to "English (UK)" you'll see dates like "5 September 2010" instead of "September 5, 2010." So we need to figure out how to resolve that conflict before we can give you the choice.

Still not able to enter dates.
Tried putting in a year of death for:

Dudley George Webb

But it doesn't take.

So i can switch to English -english instead of american english and it will show 5 sep 2010?

Yes, (English UK) -- wherever someone has provided a translation that orders the dates that way. You'll also get fun phrases like "Merge Centre" :)

Dudley George Webb has now allowed me to enter date of death but can't enter dates anywhere else.

Georgina Elizabeth Webb

Tried to put a date of death on this one.

Why aren't counties in the UK listed as counties? Shouldn't the field for State/Province include Kingdoms for the UK?

To show that there ancestors are English, Welsh or Scots, people are filling in the Country field with "England, UK"; "X-Scotland"; "X-Wales", "England (present UK)"; etc. This causes the stats for "Birth Country" and "Current Location" to be confused and inaccurate.

In regard to my post from much earlier, my thought was not regarding privacy or personal expression, but for the ability for a user to make a tree that can be seen by others, but can not be merged. I find many users would like to build a tree that they know won't change from what they have documented. Once merged into other trees these users see a flood of information that is spurious and conjectured to their research.

Perhaps those who would like to have their own individual trees of rigorous research should be given an area to build their trees without worry of merges and collaborations that they question. These trees could be read by all users, but the tree manager's research could not be altered. It would then be a sort of "Reference Forest" with duplicate profiles of what is on the "Global Tree" but that can only be changed by the tree manager who made that tree.

Then if someone working on the "Global Tree" questions the validity of a date or place, they can search through this "Reference Forest" of trees and see how many of these separate and individual trees agree toward one conclusion and if the individual's tree is complete enough, find primary resources they cite. Perhaps one person's tree would cite the date from the County Hall of Records, another person's tree would cite from the Obituary, and another person's tree would cite from a history book, but only 2 of the three sources agree. Perhaps nobody has a source, but the majority of individual trees weigh toward one date or location over another.

Either way, whether in regard to the superior source or the undocumented agreement, a better decision can be made on "Global Tree" issues because the various entries are preserved in these "Reference Trees" and those users who feel that the rigor of their research should not be tampered with without their weighing the facts, will have a place to build their tree according to their own standards of research that others can access as "Reference Trees".

Otherwise, Geni.com will continue to lose many of the more fastidious researchers to Ancestry.com where they can build a tree and not worry about whether their research will still be there the next time they log on instead of replaced by another person's understanding of what is the preferred date, location, or name spelling.

@Neil What you are describing is what the curators are attempting to achieve in the 'Historic Tree' and they are making, IMHO, Great headway in this. If Geni allowed everyone to have these read only trees that didn't get merged in we would never reach our end aim. If someone has sources then their data will contribute to the final Master Profile. Some people are against Master Profiles being locked however by locking them and only adding information that really 'adds' to the profile rather than cluttering it with the same quotes from Wiki over and over or adding spurioius information, I believe, is the way to go.

Attention, Curators, please assist!!! I've got a little brain twister here? I've got two nodes and maybe a third, somewhere in my tree, with the same URL??? I may of done this mistake myself when I first put her in. They have Jean-Baptiste Lebel and Marie-Catherine Lebel as the parents, but this cannot be correct. The woman's name is Marie-Elisabeth-Ursule (St.Pierre) Pelletier, the wife of Pierre-Antoine Pelletier, (1766-1823). Marie-Elisabeth-Ursule (St. Pierre) Pelletier's Parents should be a Mr. and Mrs. St. Pierre and "NOT" Lebel. Anyway the URL is: Marie-Élisabeth-Ursule St. Pierre

John Roby Pelletier, I have removed the incorrect parental relationship to Marie-Elizabeth-Ursule Pelletier(st. Pierre). Can you please check your tree and see if it is correct now or are there any more corrections you need help with?

Terry Jackson, much better. Thank you Madame!

My pleasure.

@Peter DeWitt

I made the mistake of letting someone merge with me and they have messed my hard work up, now i don't know how to fix this short of deleting the whole tree and starting all over, I can't finish putting my information in because theirs is in wrong , I have tried to contact them several times with no reply. please check out Peter Dewitt, Thank you Marjorie DeWitt/Bailey

http://www.geni.com/people/Marie-Madeleine-Roberge-C%C3%B4t%C3%A9/6...

Please disconnect from Pelletier parents.The correct ones are the Cotes. I tried to correct but wasn't able to complete without splitting the tree. Thanks. Mary

Peter DeWItt

This needs to be taken off my tree, it has my tree messed up in a way i can't add my information , i have tried to contact the owner several times and get no reply, short of deleting my tree and starting over i can't fix it. thank you, i will think twice about letting another merge until i have all my information in, i have a new partner that is doing great, but would like this family removed. thank you

Mary - Pelletiers removed.

Thank you Sherry

My paternal grandfather was adopted. I have information on his biological parents. Does anyone know how I can add them to my tree?

Write about it in the About me with links.