ATTENTION Curators, please assist

@Martin Everard. I cannot remove my partner in the Relationships drop down menu as the 'Remove' button is greyed out. ASctually, I would like to keep her - she is still my partner - but I do not want to see her tree and she does not want to see mine. How can I un-merge the two trees?

The easiest way to handle this situation is just to narrow down your Tree View display options until you have only 1 generation up and 1 or 2 down. (A lot of people do this anyway because they want to concentrate or have limited display space or capability.)

Then selectively click through the tree, displaying only those profiles you want/need to work with at any given time.

I have a partner and in-laws as well, and that's how I keep them under control.

Martin Everard ... sending you a PM (private message) about this ...

Frederic Muller / Miller / Milaire Please split him from the parents. I made an error years ago, and thought he was the descendant of Wendell, but he is not connected. There's no known information on the ancestors of my Frederic Muller. Thanks.

Katrina I was the one who pointed you to this discussion to ask Curators to help you with your concerns on your merge. Now that I see what you are asking, here's something a bit more helpful. I copied and pasted it from a response I did the other day:

Geni is creating one family tree for the entire world, built from the collaborative research of millions of genealogists.
Source: http://www.geni.com/worldfamilytree

Geni is solving the problem of genealogy by inviting the world to build the definitive online family tree.
Source: http://www.geni.com/corp/

Geni users from around the world work together to build a single, comprehensive family tree.
Source: http://help.geni.com/entries/466599-What-is-Geni-

Welcome to Geni!
If you are like most new users of Geni, you have probably been looking for a place to enter, store and share genealogical data on your immediate family (and beyond) with other relatives and friends. Geni is indeed a great tool for doing that. But there are several things that you will need to know before you get too far at building your family tree here. The most important of these is the fact that Geni’s focus is on Collaboration and sharing for the purpose of working toward the ultimate goal of creating a single, accurate family tree that connects all of our users (with no duplicates).
Source: http://wiki.geni.com/index.php/Meta:About

That said, welcome to Geni.com. :D

Private User
Frederic Muller is now parentless.

Thanks!

@Darshan Kumar Bhangdia.
Please assist with this merge issue for Darshan K. Bhangdia. I have tried contacting the manager and received no response.

http://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000000579926441?from%5Fflash=...

Private User one of the managers,Purshottam Bhangdia has been reported as an abandoned tree and no replacement manager. Until Geni decides to start releasing this type of profile, the merge can not be done.

What signifies an "abandoned tree"? I was asked sometime ago to take over a tree that was an offshoot of my own, which I agreed to. I tried to contact the manager of those profiles, who is a cousin of mine, but have not been successful in doing so. I am concerned that she might be deceased since she was well into her 70's when I met her a few years ago.

Private User From the Help desk "

A tree is considered abandoned if the profile manager has not logged into their account in the past 9 months. In order to help complete merges, users may report these inactive managers as Abandoned Trees.

The following actions are taken when resolving an Abandoned Tree report:

Deceased profiles outside of the user’s Family Group are made public

For private profiles within the user’s Family Group, management is transferred to the nearest active relative in their Family Group

If a close relative cannot be found, then management of these private profiles will not change

Steps to report an abandoned tree:

Navigate to their profile page

Click Actions

Choose Abandoned Tree

The option to report a profile as abandoned will only appear if the user has not logged into their account in the past 9 months."

There is an error in that text: Management will not be transferred, only added. The user will still be a co-manager of the profiles.

Thanks for the explanations of an "abandoned account". I have just renewed my PRO membership, and will probably be more active in the management of my profiles now that I am retired. I am sure that more questions will arise, and I will present them to this curator group as needed.

Thanks again.

@katrina before signing up to Geni you should have familiarised yourself with the ethos of this huge webservice. By deciding to place your tree on Geni you effectively agreed to share it with 7 million other members and an instrinsic part of that sharing process is collaboration; if you didn't realise that when reading the small print before you joined, then the very least you could do is to accept your mistake graciously and work within the rules. Otherwise, as you have observed, there are plenty of other web services which would be happy to take your money and allow you to maintain your tree in isolation.

ATTN curators!

From reading a a little of the help forum regarding "ERRORS" I'm led to believe that this thread is the appropriate place for such requests. Let me know if this is out of place and if I should contact someone more or less directly.

Request: I've really mucked it all up! I was hoping to resolve an issue where my maternal grandmother's maternal grandmother, Ruth Hochman had her own sister as her daughter. I can explain fully, but I just mean to demonstrate that this is not a matter of "Alls I wanted to do was change a little thing and everything went wrong." I understood that the service is very complex and I didn't know enough to fix it all.

However, I did NOT appreciate the gravity of resolving duplicates incorrectly and removing relationships until I screwed it up to such a degree.

>> I'm hoping that someone can help me to sever the entire branch above my >> grandmother "Maressa Orzack (Hecht)." @Maressa Orzack

I'm willing to immediately recreate the Hecht line. I removed all relationships there hoping to start fresh but I'm under the impression that it left a lot of connections unresolved. I'd thought that I managed ALL of those profiles so I'm wondering if someone else's tree is implicated.

Please let me know if you need further details.

My tree's url is:

http://www.geni.com/share?t=6000000018389236280

Best,
Abraham Friedman

Abraham....the good thing is you dont have that many profiles so I dont think you have mucked up anyone too badly...

If you can send us a link (the URL) of a person, such as your Ruth Hochman, maybe some one of the Curators can take a look-see and advise you....

Katrina - you have already joined Geni. Basic -- ie non-paying - Members are still Members, and have still joined Geni. By creating your profile on Geni or accepting an invite to your profile you have joined Geni.

Will Chapman (Vol. Curator) - Expecting someone to do that level of research - especially when Geni makes it so hard - is unreasonable.
Currently on its Home Page, Geni says:

"Work Together

Add what you know, then invite your relatives to add the missing pieces. Seamlessly collaborate on a single shared tree with as many family members as you like."
-----NOTE; "with as many family members as you like" - no hint you may have more forced on you than you like.

And it also says:

"Families

Families use Geni to work together on their shared family history, to stay in touch with family members, and be reminded of family birthdays and anniversaries."
----Again - note no hint you will be exposed to non-family members, etc.

I believe Geni quite purposely is enticing folks who are only focused on their own families. So do not blame them for being mislead. Geni is quite knowingly and purposely doing the misleading.

Lois.....do you JUST work Lubin's.....or does your family include other names...?

If so, then you DO work other people's families....

Most genealogists understand that you can work as extensively as you wish OR stay close at home....but the more adventurous should understand that the further up or sidewise they go...they are going to run into other researchers....if that bothers them, they should not extend their tree on a site that is very up-front in telling everyone that the goal is to find 'one World Tree' or 'Big Tree'...

There are, as has been stated numerous times, other sites that exist for the purpose of people who want to work only what they want to work and not be confused by having other people to contend with.......Geni is not such a site....nor has it ever said it was.

I, for one, find it exciting to see what other families I am related to....it would get very boring to only work my close relatives......but that is me, and I cannot speak for others.

Out of curiosity I just did a google search, keyword Geni

Top two hits

http://www.google.com/search?q=Geni&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&h...

Geni Home

Create your family tree and invite relatives to share. Search 100 million profiles & discover new ancestors.

Geni Wikipedia page

Geni is a genealogy and social networking website. Launched on January 16, 2007, the Web 2.0 company aims to create a family tree of the world.

Not sure this is an advanced level of research, particularly for ... Researchers. :)

But to replicate results, go to any search engine, type 4 letters,

G E N I

(return)

Erica - the Wikipedia Article is coming up 5th for me, not in top 2. Plus --
it is not the one mentioned previously that spells out the issues being addressed here. That was
http://wiki.geni.com/index.php/Meta:About

The Wikipedia Article which comes up early in the Google Search is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geni.com - which I don't think will really enlighten folks. It starts by stating: "Geni is a genealogy and social networking website." Among other statements there: "For now users may only see information belonging to themselves and to people in their immediate network who have given them permission."

I gave my results exactly as I saw them. I'm sure there's variance.

My point was it is not a secret that Geni is a "world family tree" with over 74 million connected profiles.

The family grouping works decently for the closer family & working with tree settings - 1 or 2 down, 1 or 2 up only - makes all the difference, I think.

Look at Geni like an acrostic puzzle. You can choose to work up, down, or sideways.

NB - in the Jewish tree it's (mostly) sideways due to the Holocaust.

Private User The Wikipedia article was last updated 30 April 2013 at 05:11. So it is probably obsolete. but I don't see how this stuff applies to the topic of this discussion

I doubt that Katrina is reading anymore anyway.

Hello, Abraham Jacob Friedman I'll send you a Private Message about your issues.

I believe that some folks need to do just a bit more research on birth and death dates. When trying to resolve merge issues on someone born 1621 and their offspring are estimated to be born before 1955 is way too vague. Merge issues would be a lot easier to complete without this problem.

Hi, Philip ... when you see an 'estimated' date range, that is something calculated by Geni's software based on surrounding profiles ... it is not something that any person puts into the profile.

The more dates there are on connected profiles, the better that calculated estimate will be.

Philip...you are RIGHT.....before 1955 goes back to the dawn of man if you wish....and is way too vague...I dont think adding the 'before' option was intended for the use some people are using it for...

I've noticed the same...

Private User Done. :D

Jonathon Bailey/ Martha Black info anyone?