ATTENTION Curators, please assist

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Just go to Find a grave and sign up....its FREE..

Then you can do whatever you wish....I use MH as a 'clue' (they are not always right)....and then go to the original source and call it up....often there are more gravesites for family members....and you can transfer them to the Geni profile and cite them...

You dont need MH for that...

P.S. I live in a MH.....

(not MyHeritage).

I most definitely agree. FAG is not a responsible way to address findagrave.com. We're all adults here.

Hi, I am not myself culturally diverse, but do take offense to the acronysm
not because it is politically incorrect, but in poor taste - also, noting it most likely was a multicultural language over sighting.

I agree that it should be addressed as it is sorely offensive. It should be noted that there are in fact now legal same sex marriages within our family trees. It would not be in the best overall interest of Geni.com or to the accomplishments of successful goal achievement.
to avoid the sorely offensive oversight. TY and Best Regards, Debra

Here's a profile (that has a number of similar one's following it) that looks like it needs some sort of attention - is it in a language that is not fully supported by Geni or just garbage?

Jonathan Edward Stanley Paracy

Hi, I am not myself culturally diverse, but do take offense to the acronysm
not because it is politically incorrect, but in poor taste - also, noting it most likely was a multicultural language over sighting.

I agree that it should be addressed as it is sorely offensive. It should be noted that there are in fact now legal same sex marriages within our family trees. It would not be in the best overall interest of Geni.com or to the accomplishments of successful goal achievement.
to avoid the sorely offensive oversight. TY and Best Regards, Debra

Thank you, Debra!

Fay, Thanks so much for your response and clarification. I know that my tree is probably a lot smaller than some of the others on Geni, but it has been a collaboration between myself and a cousin on my father's side of the family that has been ongoing for a few years. She actually started the tree and I added to it. In the process we have added a lot of information. I realize that I have a long way to go, and in fact have some information that I have not yet added to my tree. In the meantime, recently found cousins have also been adding information as well.

I have also done research at my local Family History Center as well as online with their website as well as JewishGen, JRI-Poland, and other online resources, and receive the daily digests from the various SIGS I have an interest in on JewishGen. I have gleaned quite a bit of information from there as well and have also helped others from my own research, and have in fact found that some are distantly related to me as well.

I prefer the "BIG" Tree rather than "World" Tree designation. I will continue to ask questions as the need arises, but have been "put off" by those on Geni who think that all merges must be made, regardless if both parties are comfortable that the information actually belongs in their trees or not. I do not believe in "suppositions" unless there is a real basis for them to be added into my tree. I know that not all information can be backed up with actual documents, but continued research should develop a good basis for the connection. That is all I am looking for. I will continue to question making any merge that I am not comfortable with by contacting the other profile manager for a further explanation before agreeing that the merge should be made; and will continue to pose questions to the group when the need arises.

I don't believe that my profiles are all private, since they can be searched on "google". I did some extensive work on my tree a while back, but due to time constraints of working full-time, and also reaching my current "brick wall" I have slowed down quite a bit. I still plan on continuing work on my tree and now that I am retired will have more time to do so. I have also done DNA testing, and am still waiting for the results of that in the hope I will be able to break down some of the "brick wall" I am currently facing.

I still believe that the GEDCOM on Geni needs to be worked on, to alleviate the mess it creates when you export it to your private computer. I started out with Family Treemaker years ago, and continue to update that file as well.

Thank you again for your kindness.

Dear curator I merged a duplicate profile for Einion ap Owain and want to unmerge it PLEASE.

Joyce.....I do NOT know how to export any GEDCOM from Geni....so I will bow out of that subject,.

As to 'private' v 'public' profiles.....I try to skirt any that might be living....and have actually created some distant relatives that I coded 'private' because of the dates involved...

I do work mostly DOWN from a given point and work siblings of public profiles....in the hopes of encountering new Geni members....and establishing contact with living people....hopefully so that they can have someone to link with but also to give them whatever instruction they might need to get used to the goals of Geni....I encourage them to work their close profiles and to keep ALL living profiles 'private'....but to make contact if they need help....(they can do it privately to anyone they feel comfortable with)...

If I find a private profile for one that is also public on the tree...I do NOT force the issue....I prefer to send a message to the 'private' manager....and explain why that person should be 'public' and wait...(perhaps a link to a very well-known family...perhaps beyond the expected date range to be held 'private'....or even what my relationship is to that profile..

My hope is that what I do opens better paths to people....since some KNOW that they are related to -x- person and some fudge the facts to get to that person....when it may be a clean route by way of a sibling of the person that they are using as the 'link'...

Keep in mind also that there are a great number of trees that were started by individuals and then abandoned......which creates problems for researchers....Geni needs to address this situation better in the future...since people have waited years to make some merges.....

For non paying Geni users a gedcom export is limited to max. 5000 profiles. This means a gedcom will have missing persons (persons mentioned in a family but without a personal record in de gedcom).
Then Geni exports multiple data if there is a data and/or tree conflict.
This makes it hard for the importing program.
It will mean that in most cases you will have to know a lot about the gedcom format the importing program will accept and using that knowledge correcting the Geni gedcom so that it will be imported a good as possible.
Doing this by hand is NOT easy, but there are some programs that can help, by checking the gedcom and pointing out some of the problems.

Katrina There are 18 Einion ap Owain profiles. Please post a link to the one you are interested in.

Eldon Lester Clark
Katrina merged Einion ab Owain, Prince of Deheubarth.
It is MP:d but not locked.

? Are all curators paying geni and/heritage? Is there a percentage known that arent?

Dear Will Chapman,

The language you would like identified from the sample you provided are the characters used for Belarusian.

Here is your sample:
ЮҾХӁҜӴ ҬҜҬӨӪ ӰҌҌӬ РФФФѺѺф с Ц

Nancy

Private User, as a token of appreciation from Geni (and to make their work easier), all curators get a free Geni PRO subscription and a MH data access subscription.

Private User, these are nonsense characters. The person in question is well known to be making those profiles. I don't think he's done much harm recently.

P.S. That is ALL they get from Geni....they are NOT paid for the work they do.

Google Translate fwowed up. Apparently that IS just a string of gibberish.

O, thats great, cause their spending more time and effort than a membership is worth

On another Topic, My grandma now has 2 dads with the same name, can someone show me how to merge dups, im not finding it

Melissa, every genealogist I know spends more time and effort than any of it is worth ;)

Private User, you can just finish off the merge...it's easy. If it's a Yellow triangle in your tree, click on it. If it's a blue dot, click on it and it will take you to a page that has a layout of the duplicates side-by-side. If they seem like the same person, then accept the merge.

Ok im looking for it

Curious - Mary Sinclair McAllister Canada 1860s to John Sinclair 1500s Scotland? Path please anyone?

Private User

Please start a new (dedicated) discussion for this request. Curators are not needed to answer the question, anyone experienced with Geni can help teach it. it's an unfair notification burden for monitors of the thread. I thank you for understanding.

As a reminder, from the 1st post in this discussion:

http://www.geni.com/discussions/80793?msg=621477

Presently what we can help you with is:
* "killing zombies" - Zombies are historical profiles that are wrongly marked as living, and thus block merges. Please continue posting these requests here: http://www.geni.com/discussions/6000000008897331095
* Make public – if a historical profile is wrongly marked as private, we can ask the system to check if it should be marked public.
* Complete pending merges between ANY pair of public profiles.

While initially we would like to concentrate on cleaning up the shared parts of the historical tree (such as European Royalty), we can and will assist anywhere needed.

(and more ...)

@eldon Clark - the person who manages the Einion ap Owain profile that merged with my tree is called Margaret (C). I noticed she is very active merging heaps of Profiles on a daily basis.

I want to unmerge my profile because some of the information her followers have does not align with my information. I cant get to my information as their profiles keep coming up. Please unmerge Margaret's Profile for Einion ap Owain from mine thankyou. Katrina

Katrina, I don't think that's a valid reason for unmerging. If those profiles represent the same profile, they should be merged.

The profile Einion ab Owain, Prince of Deheubarth currently has 81 managers - that likely means that at least that many have added the profile to the tree and had them merged.

If you disagree with what's written on it, please start a discussion, so that we can get a consensus on what the profile should say. Duplication is not an answer.

@ Harald Tviet Alvestrand - I was previously informed that Eiinion ap Owain had 18 managers. No one said I had to "justify" my reason for not wanting to merge. This is a rather rigid, somewhat controlling response to my request. I told you who the manager was that I merged with. In spite of what GENE wants, I am not particularly interested in growing my tree to the point that it becomes incomprehensible so please unmerge the merge.

Actually I was not aware that I would inherit all these other people's profiles when I agreed to merge. I have not joined Gene "yet" and if this is the manner in which you handle client requests then forget it . There are plenty of other sites that will look after me and would be interested in my money and my family history.

Please see to my request. regards Katrina.

Katrina
I can see that you are new to Geni and possibly not fully aware of the concept behind the 'Big Tree' - one big (in particular historical) tree, where users work collaboratively.
GIve it a chance - it might grow on you as it has on many of us.

@Katrina my 37th cousin 4 times removed - the Geni big tree is where we work together to build a common world tree. If you want a separate tree, you need to be on MyHeritage.

Katrina...the profile you sent has birth date of 926.....

That is WAY beyond the privacy level allowed by Geni...and is 'public' ..

NOONE is allowed private profiles or allowed 'individual' trees back that far...if others have the same info they can merge....if it is the same individual..

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