ATTENTION Curators, please assist

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Tammy, Erica, thanks for disentangling the Birchard parentage. And I'll hope the other manager responds soon for the merges.

BTW the tree is not so much isolated as it is dangling. I found an anchor point.

Something happened a few days ago & I have puzzled about it. I got 2 requests to put someone in a project "The Society of the Cincinnati" I think. I am not in that project & know nothing about it. The person making the request, I also do not know anything about. I waited a couple of days hoping that it would say "he" was already accepted to the project. Well finally I sent him an email & told him I wasn't part of the project. I declined to put him in the project. Now to the question. Why did that request come to me if I am not a collaborator on the project? When I request to be part of a project it would hurt my feelings if I was rejected. So I feel bad. Thanks for the help in clarifying this.

Faustine you were probably a manager of the PROFILE that was requested to "add to project."

The way project additions work (except for curators) is that a request goes out to the managers requesting that it be OK'd.

As a manager when I get the request, I look at the Project, and if the profile & project seem to "fit" OK, authorize it. If I don't know I do what you do if I'm not the only manager. :). If I'm not sure, then perhaps the project overview needs to be clearer (often enough there's a link to a list the project collaborator is working from).

It is rare I see a mistake and its easy enough to remove from project if one is found.

Hope that helps.

Okay, thanks Erica, next time I will probably just approve & if there is a problem we can deal w/ it later. The info has disappeared from my Requests folder. Thanks again.

Michael Schmidt

Catharina Schmidt (Ewinger)

These are two historical (both born prior to 1800) profiles that are set to "private" but sit above a branch that is public. I've asked the manager to please make them public but have not received a response. Is it possible to make them public? I hate to clutter up the tree by making duplicate profiles in order to continue working on that branch... Thanks for any assistance you can give.

Private User,

Claimed family blocking them both from being made public.

Faustine...I had a request also to approve adding a profile I manage to the Society of the Cincinnati....an organizaation I know of, and I also knew that I had talked about this profile with SOMEONE (I forget with who). about the Society a while ago.....I was not the only manager on the profile so when I went to approve it, someone had already approved it....

Someone evidently confirmed the profile's credentials (or a descendant of the profile) and wanted to get the profile confirmed within our site.

Private User Both of those will probably never made public as there are 5 family members in the claimed group. 4 are completely inactive and the 5th hasn't been on in months. Best if you just ignore them and work around the problem.

I think it is "High Time" that some improvements are made to the Projects, especially the DAR & American Revolutionary War ones. The profiles can somehow be alphabetized by last name. Whatever you call the automatic indexing so that I can click on a letter & all the names show in alphabetical order. Geni is fun & has lots of pluses. I know not to search by going page by page. I would be suicidal if I did. However, for people who are not in DAR & have never used the database they might look for their ancestors that way. It is almost an insult to me that nothing has happened. We are PAYING to build this site & we need some cooperation from the MANAGEMENT. I am not angry & I am not even held back by this problem because I am used to it. I go to the DAR database for my searches because it is hopeless here. There are many dedicated participants who work tirelessly to build their family trees. How hard can it be? How expensive can it be? I am not speaking to volunteer curators but to the management / owners that I pay my annual $s to.

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I've never brought it up, but alphabetizing the profiles added to any project would be a big plus. When I'm looking for ancestors, especially, it would be nice to just scroll through the T list in a particular project to see if they've been added.

It's interesting to me how quickly, in terms of software development, the radical idea in online genealogical services of a Project grouping for family tree profiles has caught on.

When Geni began in 2007 there was nothing like a Project - on this site or any other (Ancestry of course coming to mind).

I think I helped start, as a Geni member, in late 2010 / early 2011 the 1st projects - Mayflower passengers being the one I put the most work in. In 2011 and especially 2012 there were a lot of enhancements to the tool. And it is still being tweaked. I think it was only a few months ago that uploading images was implemented !

So -- indexing, sorting, searching within Projects are absolutely high on my priority list, to take the tool to the next level. But it probably is not the most trivial of software development tasks, or it long since would have been done.

I already have an app doing all this, but that is for Windows installation only ;-)

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The fact that it was probably a complex issue (or it would have already been done, in all likelihood), and there are more pressing things to be done, are reasons I had never expressed this as an item on my Geni "wish list." I love the projects for many reasons, and think they are a great addition to Geni.

Faustine,

this guy used to make indexes for projects apparently. maybe he could be contacted about making one for the daughters of the american revolution project.
http://www.geni.com/projects/Geni-Project-Index-Requester/11547
Randy Stebbing

also, here are 3 feature requests for alphabatizing project profiles and adding the ability to search within them. all marked as "planned".
presumably that means that the feature is actively planned to be included.

http://help.geni.com/entries/507617-Project-profiles-consistency-of...
http://help.geni.com/entries/22496666-Sorting-of-Project-profiles-list
http://help.geni.com/entries/507465-Search-in-a-project

and on that middle link above, this guy said he is working on a sort function through the api. contact him.

" Bjørn P. Brox, Curator"

he may have already solved this. or at least made a bandaid.

Thanks Eric, I didn't realize Geni does in fact have sorting on their software development plate.

Everyone should check the "features" requests - and log in their good ideas!

The help link at the bottom of every page

http://help.geni.com/

Please help me remove Gruffydd ap Cynan from the position of father to @Gwladus ferch Rhiwallon. Thank you for your help.

Morgan Oak any idea where those people are documented? Especially Gwladus seems blank; Gruffydd has the same text over and over (typical merge).

What's going on with this is that at that time Welsh names were still patronymics. "Ferch Rhiwallon" means "daughter of [somebody named] Rhiwallon". If she were Gruffydd's daughter she would be Gwladys ferch Gruffydd.

For that matter, "ferch" is modern Welsh. Earlier forms were "merch" and "verch".

Whenever I dip my toes in the Welsh tree I hold my arms up in alarm and flee! We desperately need a Welsh Expert Curator.

Unfortunately I don't know enough to qualify - just a little bit about how Welsh names were and are formed. :-)

Thank you for your quick attention to this. I have been using the tree of a friend who has done some reasonable research, but who still has some mistakes. I carried that mistake over by accident, placing Gwenllian as the wife of Rhys ap Tudur, of Deheubarth by mistake. Geni connected the trees, and I couldn't remove Gwenllian, (There WERE two Gwenllians--Geni knew what she (?) was doing) so I changed her name to Gwladys verch Rhiwallon, Queen of Deheubarth. Forgive me for using Wikipedia, but it does have links to support it's info, and it's a good overview:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhys_ap_Tewdwr
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhiwallon_ap_Cynfyn

Also, I'm using FamilySearch's Community Trees
http://histfam.familysearch.org/pedigree.php?personID=I9336&tre...

The Merrrick (Myrick) family are among my most interesting ancestors and I did find some good sources for their ancestry, which I linked to in the project on them, but in general Welsh genealogy seems challenging! I think my Williams line is also Welsh. That's the story anyway and they lived in the Cotswolds (Wotten-Under-Edge) so I believe the geography works.

Could someone please unlink Mrs. Starbuck from William Starbuck Somehow the two Williams have been confused.

Thanks!

My father's first language is Welsh and I've had to learn it since I was four so I have a small knowledge of how names developed and change, though it's more of a personal hobby; the family tree.
I wish I was able to help more. I've noticed that alot of information and dates are clashing and there are multiplications of the same people.
I hope it becomes a little less confusing, though I doubt I'd be able to contribute that much. :O x

I think:
'ferch' 'merch' verch' is "The Daughter of__father's name__"
'ap' 'ab' 'mab' mAb' are alternate forms of "The Son of_father's name_"
(V in the place of 'f' is usually an Anglicisation)

It's from a 'Welsh Patronymic naming system', possibly originating in ancient Chieftains as a form of Paternal descendancy.
There tends to be a second name: Vychan, Goch, etc...
are either nicknames of titles given during life or after death.
"Vychan or Vaughan" meaning short, small, or The Younger
Goch is a Welsh language mutation of 'Coch' ...the Welsh word for 'Red'

Hope I've been able to help so far. :P

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