ATTENTION Curators, please assist

Nathan Rosenshein The only way it could be done is through users who were collaborators for managers on both sides. Due to the age of the profiles to be merges, born 8/3/1974, Geni will never release them

Hi. What does it mean when a profile has been updated/changed and the photo of the updater shows a "Geni logo?" There is no name of the person who has changed the profiles, just the picture with that logo...

http://www.geni.com/merge/compare/299172847690006341?fsession%5Fid=...
This is cute , as the person herself has requested the merge, and no progress!

Nathan, I have completed the merge for her.

Terry, I thank you!

Terry, as I look at her profile after your good help, she still seems to be listed as a sibling to herself!

Nathan,

I have cleared up the rest of the merges and have merged her parents.

Terry Jackson (Switzer) - your MP'd profile of - William de Bohun (de Bohun,), KG, 1st Earl of Northampton - has some nearby pending Merges:

http://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000019818214691

Not my focus, can you make them - since you're more likely to rectify the post merge Data confilcts ?

Michael Karov-Karo

cant seem to do the merger....

Private
and this guy has become his own brother....oy vey....

Fixed. Nathan Rosenshein, you should take a look at the dates for Josef Kroo.

Peter Rohel (c) The link you gave led me to a tree that wasn't the de Bohun tree but the manager has only been on Geni for a few days so I sent a message to him asking if he wanted a seperate tree or to merge with the historic tree. His tree went back to William the Conqerer.

Terry Jackson (Switzer) - yes, i noticed the new user - just though you may want to know when I noticed you're curator of William's profile:

William de Bohun (de Bohun,), KG, 1st Earl of Northampton
http://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000003086434645 (duplicate in other tree)

his mother Elizabeth of Rhuddlan (Plantagenet) (outstanding merge request)

Curators and Tecnicians,
Does a way exist to find and save multiple lines to the same person(s)? EX: An historical figure proved to be my 57th gg when geni responded to my "How are you related?" query, but when I checked her only husband he proved to be my 50th gg from an earlier wife. At a still later date, I wanted to trace the line from the wife and geni told me only that she was the husband's (50th gg) 5th wife. Did the link disappear, or does geni only show the shortest line?

Thanks,
Dan

Thanks Peter

Danny: Geni tends to show the shortest and closest path as calculated at that particular time. If something changes, it can take some time for the path(s) to be recalculated. (Usually they run a recalc about once a week, or so I'm told.)

Thanks Maven

re: path calculations (particularly more than a few generations).

Remember, too, that the "World Tree" is not static / fixed. New connections (e.g. profiles and families) are being added all the time. Erroneous connections are being fixed as people encounter them. Additional children are identified and added. New connections between "bottom up" trees and "top down" historical trees are being found.

So, yes, the path can change -- albeit most paths don't change very often.

Thanks Dan, that helps. If the first path I found still exists to the 57th gg, that could make her husband my 50th and 57th gg. Is there a way to find that out?

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Why would I get this message - when trying to see file matches - it is a private profile.

Multiple paths are very common. That is part of the so-called 'pedigree collapse' (Internet search will explain in more detail). One of the implications is multiple paths to the same ancestor -- and that they are often not of the same length.

Unfortunately, there is not currently any way to view any multiple paths; you can only view the details of the current path between two profiles. That (multiple path search and view) is a requested feature which *may* be implemented at some point in the future. (There are several related in the Help -> Feature Requests, such as http://help.geni.com/entries/20804268-Relative-showing-path-of-less..., http://geni.zendesk.com/entries/21329798-Reset-a-path-from-you-to-o..., and http://geni.zendesk.com/entries/21442431-Being-able-to-trace-the-co...)

Thank you Dan Cornett, that clears it up. The two I speak of are popular historical figures with prominent ancestors and descendants of their own, so I'll continue to hope for the *may* day you speak of.

One thing you can try, which I have found helpful on occasion, is a reverse path. You do this by going to the profile of the person whose path you want to check, clicking on the push-pin icon in the upper right-hand corner, then going to and opening the profile for your father or mother, whichever one applies. If you don't immediately get a path, click on the Relationship Finder at top center and see what it says.

Thanks again Maven, I'll give it a try!

I have a programming question. I see that some names are keyed together with different spellings. For instance Smith and Smyth. Can Geni be programmed to recognize the various changes in spelling of my family name? Drollinger is original, but was pronounced in German as Trollinger; so immigrants to the USA sometimes had the name changed on written records. If both/all variations could be programmed as synonymous Geni would recognize many more real connections.

Geni did once support the soundex and metaphone algorithm, but they created terrible results for none-English names.

Thank you Bjorn. As an alternative, is there a way to record multiple speliings within a profile so that Geni will pick up on it? I think Birth Surname would work, but could mislead other viewers.

Danny Franklin Drollinger - normal for us working on Jewish lines.

1) Birth field (for original) - Last name (last one used in US, UK, AU, CDN, etc.)

2) listing 3 Surname variations - in Display filed (used sometimes)

3) Surname date change & location - in About

4) posting some of the above - in Timeline fields

Unfortunately, I agree with Bjørn - impossible with soundex, etc. - for Geni to automate it :)

Won't putting the name variants in "Also Known As" do it?

Danny in the "Anglo American" tree I try and reflect our name evolving ancestors in this way:

last name: at death
Birth surname: at birth
AKA / nickname: spelling variations WITHIN the lifetime
display name: only used for disambiguation

example:

A first known immigrant from Germany, birth name Richter, last name (tombstone based) Rector

This shows the evolution of the name, record based, through time.