Please make these two MP so they don't get merged accidentally:
Elizabeth Ball (died after 3 days)
Elizabeth Ball (born a year later, died after ~1yr)
Dan...I added a photo to your Elizabeth Ball's....if you print it and save on your hard drive photos, you can use it should the situation come up again....I find it saves people merging with impossible profiles...a LOT...(I got tired of disconnecting husbands and children from women who died prior to their 10th birthday)....
Hope you don't mind....
Thank you, Fay Elizabeth Dyer -- I know that will be helpful!
p.s.: For anyone ... once you have a copy in one of your own Media folders, you can then attach it to any profile by just adding that name as "someone identified in this photo"; and then select it as the profile photo.
I don't know if that's any faster than uploading it each time, but it does two things: (1) You only have one copy in your media folders, and (2) you have a list of all the profiles where it is used in one place.
Just a thought....
I can't take the credit....I had 1 that Ric Dickinson sent me but changed it to a copy that Peter Breed posts.....I thought of one for d.unm but found that too often genealogies STOP at a point (for publishing I guess) and that I had to un-do a few....so deemed that profile post as untenable.....
it saves space in that you only save it once...but can use it over and over.....
Dan...I had 3 Elizabeth's and 2 Sarah's in one family early on, with people attaching husbands and children all over the place....so I encountered the problem before I got out of the 1800's...and with the re-using of names for centuries by some families I truly know what you have been encountering with regard to wrong matches.....
Hope this helps...
Fay
re: "Died Young" profile pictures - I had occasion today to note a person who probably died young: John R. Hilton
So I made up this picture for that "Possibly Died Young":
http://www.geni.com/photo/view/6000000011723352447?photo_id=6000000...
... to complement this previously discussed "Died Young":
http://www.geni.com/photo/view/6000000011723352447?photo_id=6000000...
re: Photos: I was afraid of that...
So, use the profiles:
Possibly Died Young: John R. Hilton
Died Young: Elizabeth Ball
Could someone kindly merge this for me?
http://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000003615051268?from%5Fflash=...
Thank you...
Sally (and others) when you came across such a pending merge of public profiles that you aren't able to complete that's usually mean that you are trying to merge a standalone-unconnected tree so even curators can't merge them.
the best advice for such cases is to try and communicate with the managers and ask if they are interested in making the connection to the big tree ,if they are interested then the next step is collaboration
Bjorn, it's really helpful for us to spell out repeatedly the new rules. I get confused myself. Can you elaborate please?
I find non Pro managers of public profiles that are not standalone all the time. I knew if I sent a merge request that they could not approve it. But if we collaborate, I can do the merge myself, correct?
Hatte Rubenstein Blejer Non-Pro users can not approve any merge.
A practice I have found helpful:
1) Send a message -- customize it and make it personal to the situation, explaining that you will follow up with a Request to "Collaborate" (or "Join Family") -- see Step 2.
When it is a Join Family Group request, I also add that either party can end the "joining" at any time, and that (if in fact it is the case) this would typically be a temporary "joining" to resolve these issues.
2) (a) If the profile in question is public, send a Collaboration request.
2) (b) If the profile is private, send a "Add to Family Group" request.
3) In the special case that it involves the individual's own personal profile, then also describe the steps to edit Permissions to allow "family members" to edit their profile -- and that once the "fixing" is done, they can reset (uncheck) that button.
If folks are clear about the steps involved, the duration of "engagement", the benefit to them, and they control they have (e.g.: to reject the request and/or to kick you out of the Family), they are often cooperative.
Dan Cornett - Thanks so much. I do 1) routinely, just as you wrote. I forget that 2) is an option and it's a useful one if the profile is private, this is good advice! I haven't run into 3) but it could definitely come in handy.
Hatte Rubenstein Blejer --
Re: "non Pro managers of public profiles that are not standalone"
If the Public Profiles are "not standalone", do you mean part of a separate tree (not singleton profile), or these are connected to / part of the Big Tree - my first reading was the latter. It is my understanding that any Pro can merge Public Profiles connected to / part of the Big Tree without any request or approval or collaboration. This would also go for a Private Profile the Pro manages to a Public Profile connected to the Big Tree.
Yes?? I would think communication, especially if it is within someone else's Max Extended Family, would be a courtesy - but not sure if or how often it is done, versus just "surprise".