ATTENTION Curators, please assist

Started by Shmuel-Aharon Kam (Kahn / שמואל-אהרן קם (קאן on Sunday, September 5, 2010
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I have posted my Displeasure - of the latest change.
Again Geni - Wrong change & direction. What will it take - for the Team to Stop making - these type of Bone-Headed changes - Not wanted by Us - the Users (paid or not) ??

This was a stupid change. My daughter is not even listed. Some changes need to be reversed.

Can't even enter marriage dates....so now will every child be illigitimate?

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The marriage date bug has been reported. Everyone does realize curators can't assist on bugs?

I want my Mommy!!!!!

Does any Geni staff member have the guts to explain the reasoning about the newest enhancements.

I'm hoping it was an attempt to fix one issue which had limited testing without anyone looking at the implications for other areas of the Geni functionality.

By the way, the 'breaking' of the links to Ancestry and Find-A-Grave appear to be a separate technical issue.

I hope it is the law of unintended consequences at work and not deliberate.

Cross reference to discussion on record matches:

http://www.geni.com/discussions/107243

I can now see the reasoning.

You can only make members of your family group PRIVATE. Now that the family group contains only living members, this should please those who object to deceased profiles being Private.

I'll need to review my family tree.

Whatever the reasoning, I suspect that Geni is about to sprout a large number of zombies.

Would someone care to test this? - I am not a Pro, so I can't.

Give your grandfather another brother, make him deceased, and see if you can make him Private.

Since all people that are deceased in what I do are PUBLIC, and have been....that still does not explain the reduction in numbers of close family....

Are you saying that anyone previously listed as private, but deceased, is now PUBLIC???

Fay. The change to the documentation implies that a newly added deceased person will be Public. I doubt that existing profiles would change. I'm asking if someone could test to see if this is the case.

I've received a reply from Geni that privacy has not changed. But now, we've two definitions of Family Group, depending on the article you're reading.

Ken - I don't think you got this quite right. http://www.geni.com/company/privacy shows private profiles out to You
Your Great-Great-Great-Grandparents & Closer irrespective of living status

In the blog, Geni has said: "We didn't make any changes to privacy with this release. Your max Family Group (third great grandparents/fourth cousins and closer) are still private by default. Essentially, we only removed unclaimed profiles from the Family Group list."

Many have asked what was the point of the change. You always could remove unclaimed profiles from the Family Group list by filtering on claimed, so what was the point of this release "enhancement"?

Also - maybe we shouldn't be continuing this discussion in the curators please help thread, now we have established that curators can't help other than badgering Geni with the rest of us to advocate for change.

I have read no purpose or support for the enhancement from anyone, be they Geni staff, curator or otherwise.

Well it can be said about curators that they badgered :)

Hi everyone. We just released some changes that should address your concerns:

* Added "Family Tree" to the list views, this will be the new default list
* Added "Family Tree" to profile stats, this will replace Family Members

The "Family Tree" list includes all the profiles that were listed before under the Family Group list. This essentially returns the functionality that was lost in yesterday's release.

Thanks Amanda! You are now an honorary curator. :)

Well, our tree has been destroyed for about the 4th time--leveled. Seriously? At least I am not the only "pro"complaining this time. PLEASE give my 100,000 Ancestors back and Mark's too. His tree has gone from 100,000 to 91. AWFUL!!!! Its gone from BAD to worse. Is it time to say: have a good night?

Michael, we didn't change anything related to ancestors. If you're talking about the number that appears in the Statistics module on your profile page, those are specially-calculated for Pro's and occasionally don't get updated; in case that's what you mean, I've told the system to recalculate the stats for you and your husband.

WOOSSSHHHH!!!!!
My stats are now Family Tree 1346, which was previously known as Family Members and they numbered 1226, Ancestors are now 7899 which were, previously 7705.

I have a simple problem. When I started using Geni in summer 2007, I began it as a tree based on my Wife. She passed away in 2009. Whenever I send greetings out to anyone it says it came from my late wife. How do I simply establish myself as the sender of anything from me at Geni? Your jargon is and will remain foreign to me, ie. the use of @ symbol, profile,tag, post, thread, et al. I just need procedure to make the above change. RK

[353410097070013049] So you started a tree essentially pretending you were your wife. Presumably there is a profile connected to your wife that IS you. I would suggest that put your e-mail address on the profile that IS you and mark your wife's profile as deceased. It must be terribly upsetting to you and any relatives recieving messages so addressed and I'm sorry for your loss.

Think Terry meant: Gayle Kneebone (Wallace) (double-brackets each end)

I would elaborate - add an e-mail address to your real profile - if necessary, create another e-mail address, so you can enter one different from the one you use as your wife, and accept the invite. Then go to Account Settings on your wife's account and choose Close Account - I believe you have the ability when closing to designate who will become manager of your profiles - designate yourself. [if don't see that -- then do so manually before completing closing the Account] Choose 'Deceased' as reason for closing the Account. Then, if you want to go back to the other e-mail address, you can to that (add it, change Primary e-mail to it, then if desired, delete the one you don't want) -- but Geni will not let you have two people with same e-mail, so to start - use different e-mail in your own Profile.

You cannot simply mark a claimed Profile as deceased. And since you have access to it -- I think closing Account is better procedure than reporting it.

Ir simply switch names and parents on the profiles.

Could someone please check for last online
Private User

Eldon - so long ago it doesn't even show. I reported as "abandoned tree."

That is what I thought, I have pending merges

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