ATTENTION Curators, please assist

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In any case: If you are looking for your own profiles it is better to just click on the "Profiles Added" link in the "Statistics" section of your own profile http://www.geni.com/profile

That list is by default sorted by date so it is easy to find where you added the last profiles.

Bjørn,

Thanks, yes that is easier.

Thanks, guys.

Thanks for helping me out here... I will be offline after 10 AM EST until next month, which is the only reason I will not be responding to feedback. I am now internetless at my home, about 1 hr and 1/2 by boat and bus (plane service was discontinued) See you next time.

" SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL CURATORS"

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Sally Thomas

You said "Julian Swan's (m. to Sam Stickney 1631) mother was Anna Spotford and her father was Richard Swan,++(not John Swaine)"++

Here are the three Julian Swans, none of them shows her father as John Swaine.
http://www.geni.com/search/matches/6000000000141016078?from_flash=1...

Did you see that somewhere? I cannot find it.

Hi Angus... Am still here. Did you keep the resources, sources, that I sent to you from my home computer, back when we were working on this? I do not have them on this computer. Please check? do the other 3 have sources?

Do you remember how we found that the Swaines and Swans were mixed in together? Swans were from a different line, than the Swaines (Swain). Most of the Swaines were from the Nantucket area, and the Swans were from the Rowley area, as I recall. And a lot of dates of birth and deaths and marriages were not the same also.

Anyone who is the know about this fellow. There appear to be may dups of him, due to the fact that he has many parents, can anyone shed light on on the verifyable parentage of him?
Ichabod Sheffield, Sr.

Angus, This is what I was worried about... http://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000005911814864?resolve=6...
For some reason I can no longer find the John that I found earler, perhaps someone made the correction already? don't know. Unless I have completely lost my mind, I know I saw it somewhere.

Thanks curators... see you, probably next month...

@ Sally Thomas

Ichabod Sheffield...... That brings to mind a woman I once met. She had a son named Ichabod. I remarked that Ichabod was an interesting name and seldom used in this day and age. The woman went on about how she loved the name and that it was in fact her favorite. She then went on to inform me she had five sons in total and each was named Ichabod. Five sons all named Ichabod, I then asked the woman if that caused any problems when she wanted to find one son in particular. She then informed me it was not an issue because when she wanted to find a certain son she would then use his last name........I do not recall if Shefield was one of the surnames she used. I will however notify you if I find any intelligence of this person or persons.

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Sally Thomas Therie is conflicting data to merge on Ichabod Sheffield, Sr.. If you resolve it, that should take care of the problem.

thank you ^U^

@Sally Thomas

Took care of one of your Richard Swains was definitely a duplicate. The rest may be out of my paygrade. Alot of duplicates fathers are brothers of sons.There is also a note about not merging two individual proiles (1607 Richard ) maybe they have a secret there not telling us.

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Oke Hendrickson@Oke

The url for this profile is: Oke Hendrickson

Earlier this evening I had made a comment on "Bug report - non PRO cannot cancel a bad merge" . My comment was: "Somehow one of the ancestors on my tree got merged with a similarly named person on another person's tree. I don't know how this happened, but when I try to delete the ancestor by removing the relationship between him and his parents, GENI warns me that it will split the tree and doesn't complete the action. But splitting the tree is what I need to do. Otherwise, I have a whole group of unrelated people attached to my tree. How can this be fixed? I don't want to change anyone else's tree, just fix mine. Could one of the GENI curators provide some help with this?"

David Prins replied: "To get attention from a curator, post the details with links to the problem area at http://www.geni.com/discussions/80793 and explain what you would like fixed."

Okay, what would fix this problem would be a curator to split this tree at Oke Hendrickson. I don't know how it happened that a number of profiles were merged on my part of the tree (I do not believe I ever approved such a merge), but it resulted in thousands of profiles being added to my tree which I believe are incorrect, and I don't want them in my tree. I have no evidence they are related to my ancestors. Moreover, some of the profiles I had previously put out there myself need to be corrected and I can't do it with the tree as it is. So, if you would please allow the other managers to have "their" Oke Hendrickson profile the way it is, and delete that "Oke Hendrickson" connection from my tree, I would then be able to fix the problems.

I think it would be nice if I could have split the tree myself to fix the bad merge, but if that's not possible, then I appreciate having a curator's taking on this task for me.

Thanks for your help with this frustrating problem!

i split him from his parents..was that the only thing you wanted?

It helped. After the split, I was able to delete the Oke Hendrickson record that had been added by Christopher Lane. That was good. However, the children (and their wives) that Christopher Lane added are all still there. These need to go away, too. The profiles that I would like deleted from my tree are as follows:

Daniel H. Hendrickson

Sarah Hendrickson

Elizabeth Henderson

William P Henderson

Sarah Herbert

James Herbert

William Hendrickson

Phebe Hendrickson

That would be very helpful.

Also, when I put a profile out on GENI that I am working with, is there any way to prevent it from being merged with another profile that someone else has added? I don't remember ever approving the mergers that apparently have taken place in the past. If I did, I didn't realize it.

Thanks so much for all your help!

Just to clarify - I directed Alice here to get curator help, not just to get profiles deleted. Those Daniel, Sarah and William profiles match profiles managed by Alice [two Daniel's are brothers at the moment]. Look to me to be appropriate for merge rather than deletion.

I am not sure that the original Oke Hendrickson should have been deleted. I think we may be in danger of deleting or orphaning profiles for no good reason.

Was it really originally a bad merge? Where are the sources?

I am just advising caution.

yup i have to agree with you ( tho i din't think i had deleted, just removed the relationship- but now i see i must have) i was looking at the names she listed, and that area of the tree , trying to figure out what was going on. i wasn't trying to step on curators toes, it was just something quick i thought i could do to help.

Private User alice are you wanting that area of the tree "deleted" because you dont want to join trees or because it is wrong? ( i can't see your copy of the profile so i dont know)` i was under the impression that it was wrong and you couldn't correct it.

Somehow one of the ancestors on my tree got merged with a similarly named person on another person's tree. I don't know how this happened, but when I try to delete the ancestor by removing the relationship between him and his parents, GENI warns me that it will split the tree and doesn't complete the action. But splitting the tree is what I need to do. Otherwise, I have a whole group of unrelated people attached to my tree. How can this be fixed?

Hi,
I can't tell who's a curator and who isn't. However, I was the one who deleted Oke Hendrickson after Kathy split the tree, because I'm trying to clean up the mess that was made of my tree by others' entries after the merge took place. I'm not theoretically opposed to merges, but I'm not interested in participating in GENI if I can't approve or reject a merge initiated by someone else. In this case, I did not knowingly approve any merges, and quite a bit of the information that is out there disagrees with what I understand about my family. I would like to have these profiles deleted so that I am able to use GENI again successfully and put in verified information. Without that, I would need to use some other genealogy program and forget about the mess that was made of my tree after this merge.

I hope that a curator will be helpful with this very reasonable request.

Thank you in advance for helping with this.

Alice I'm a curator but I couldn't work on this without a guide to follow. I am not familiar with this family.

But I have a suggestion.

The manager on many of the Henderson profies is, interestingly enough, also a curator. So you would have the happy coming together of someone interested in a correct tree as you are, and also the experience with geni to make i happen.

Please try contacting him via the contact manager link.

To add to Erica's good advice:

You can tell if someone's a curator by looking for the purple "C" next to their name on their profile. (You should see it when looking at my name next to this post, for example.) If a profile has a curator assigned, it will say "Curated By:" below "Managed By:" on the profile.

There is also a list of curators available at http://wiki.geni.com/index.php/Curators_on_Geni That is a helpful list for finding someone working in the areas you're interested in. Even I still use it a lot. :)

Hello again,

Hendersons are not part of my family. I continue to be interested in splitting the tree between the part I added and the part that was added by Christopher Lane. I am unable to do this, so am requesting that someone at GENI help. I don't know if this is best done by deleting the profiles I requested above, or my simply removing the relationship between my tree and those profiles. I'm not trying to delete profiles from anyone else's tree, but I would like to clean up my own. This whole problem came about due to a merger that I did not approve, at least knowingly.

Is there someone who can assist me in this way?

Thanks!

CORRECTION:
Hello again,

Hendersons are not part of my family. I continue to be interested in splitting the tree between the part I added and the part that was added by Christopher Lane. I am unable to do this, so am requesting that someone at GENI help. I don't know if this is best done by deleting the profiles I requested above, or by simply removing the relationship between my tree and those profiles. I'm not trying to delete profiles from anyone else's tree, but I would like to clean up my own. This whole problem came about due to a merger that I did not approve, at least knowingly.

Is there someone who can assist me in this way?

Thanks!

Private User

1. Contact the profile manager for this profile James Herbert

2. Include a link to the profile where you think the trees are erroneously joined.

3. That profile manager is a curator, very experienced geni user, and this is part of his tree; but he does not monitor this discussion. So you need to send the email.

Hope this helps.

The issue has been resolved. My husband, who has GENI Pro, has severed the relationship between the reocrd on my tree and the profiles added by another person whose profiles caused problems for me. My next step is going to be to document my sources. In the meantime, I have marked the nearby profiles in my tree with "BEING INVESTIGATED -- DO NOT MERGE". I do not want to merge any of my profiles with others' profiles if I don't trust their sources. That clearly had happened before, and I don't want it to happen again. When records were merged before, I suddenly acquired 7000 profiles in my family tree, some of which were obviously not valid, and the performance of the GENI program went way down.

I appreciate your help. I just want to make sure that I'm not wasting my time when I'm documenting my family history on GENI -- which is what happens when records are merged with untrustworthy information.

Thank you, Alice. You can also do a couple of other things to enhance your geni experience.

1. Relinquish management of profiles you do not want in your tree. You do that through the Actions menu, Manager Options.

2. If a public historic profile is well sourced, ask that it be made a Master Profile. See this link that describes further: http://wiki.geni.com/index.php/Master_Profile

thanks you all for fixing my mistake.

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