
Conde Artal de Luna, V Señor de Luna is Raúl Castro Chacón, Capitán de Navio's 23rd great uncle!
Raúl Castro Chacón, Capitán de Navio → Raúl Castro Puga (your father) → Aurora Puga del Valle (his mother) → Raymundo Puga Puga (her father) → José María Puga Sepúlveda (his father) → Rufina Sepúlveda Riquelme de la Barrera (his mother) → Carlos Gabriel Sepúlveda Acuña (her father) → Marcos de Sepúlveda y Herrera (his father) → Antonio Leiva Sepúlveda Forsen (his father) → Marcos Leiva Sepúlveda de la Cerda (his father) → Antonio de Leiva Sepúlveda (his father) → Teresa de Leyva (his mother) → Martina de Mendoza, G13/G12 (her mother) → Martín "El Gitano" Hurtado de Mendoza Cabrera (her father) → Diego Hurtado de Mendoza, III Duque del Infantado (his father) → María de Luna y Pimentel, Señora de La Torre de Esteban Hambrán (his mother) → Álvaro de Luna y Jarana, I Conde de Santisteban de Gormaz (her father) → Álvaro Martínez de Luna (his father) → Juan Martínez de Luna, señor de Illueca y Gotor (his father) → Juan Martínez de Luna, señor de Mediana, Illueca y Gotor (his father) → Juan Martínez de Luna, Señor de Illueca (his father) → Pedro Martínez de Luna, el Joven, Gobernador General de Aragón (his father) → Pedro Martínez de Luna, el Viejo (his father) → Sancho Martínez de Luna, DIY (his father) → Pedro López de Luna (his father) → Conde Artal de Luna, V Señor de Luna (his brother)
Antes que sea demasiado tarde libero y expongo para análisis y discusión el pensamiento que me llevó a enunciar mi Ley de Genealogía.
Pensando en la descendencia de Adán me di cuenta que matemáticamente no la podía deducir usandolo como vértice; se me ocurrió efectuar el cálculo al revés poniendo a un individuo como tal y este pensamiento lo traduje a una fórmula matemática generando mi Ley de Genealogía, basándome en un hecho cierto, cada persona tiene un padre y una madre (salvo los generados por otros medios) logrando A=2^n donde A es el número de ascendientes directos y n el número de generaciones y lo calcule para 30 generaciones logrando como resultado A=1.073.741.824
siendo este guarismo tan grande y ciñiendome a la definición de parentesco (que exista una persona común a dos seres) es que inferi que existe una gran probabilidad que dos personas cualquiera sean parientes y solo se desconozca la ruta de parentesco que las une.
Si se aumenta el número de generaciones, A crece exponencialmente, así solo para dos generaciones más o sea n=32 A=8.589.934.592
Esto no es ni religión ni política, simplemente matemáticas.
Raúl Castro Chacón
good for you, I envy your South American lines up on to Adam and Eve :)
in the meantime a masked (C) today just completely deleted all the tags from a JPG made to slightly signal at a glance completely white unsourced profiles, but embellished with COA, which in fact do not contain any trace source indo inside them.
It did not mean that they were not good, just to write inside before embellishing them all with the "coat of arms" JPG everywhere! but here around it's full of them! everywhere!!
studying the just by me now primary sourced profile of Pedro V Martínez de Luna, “el Viejo”
(stopped in 2020 at his son Pedro VI Martínez de Luna, “el Mayor” ..just to stop DIY invasions in Italy)
-DIY Roglo parents
-a DIY Genealogie Online BRO Pedro IV Martínez de Luna ..but if also he is "el Viejo" es a DUP!
- a daugter Teresa Martínez de Luna not listed.. It's not a drama, but her husband Garci Alvarez De Albornoz, IV señor de Albornoz is another one of those profiles all made up by pretty colored COA & with nothing written inside, except that he has another identical wife with the same name and surname: Teresa Martínez de Luna /!\
and this is just trying to trace a perimeter of a few cm :Q
response? a (C) using the anonymity of custom service has deleted all the TAGs of this JPG:
-https://www.geni.com/photo/view?album_type=photos_of_me&id=6000...
and this is the second "construction site" JPG that jumps..
..Erica Howton If a serious genealogist passes by here, what should it do? o.O
Garci Alvarez De Albornoz, IV señor de Albornoz & Teresa Martínez de Luna
Parents of Gil Álvarez de Albornoz, Cardenal
Teresa Martínez de Luna & Teresa Martínez de Luna (if they are the same) are both with wrong parents, according to Spanish Wikipedia.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garci_Alvarez_de_Albornoz
Google translation: He married Teresa de Luna,[3] daughter of Pedro Martínez de Luna "junior" (d. before 1282) and his wife Elvira Pérez de Sessa.[4] Teresa was the sister of the Archbishop of Toledo and Primate of Spain, Jimeno Martínez de Luna,[3] of the ricoman of Aragon Pedro de Luna de Gracia, the first wife of Simón de Moncada, and of Juan Martínez de Luna I, grandfather of Pope Benedict XIII.[4]
If I understand correctly, Teresa was the daughter of Pedro Martinez de Luna, “Junior” & Elvira Pérez de Sessé and Pedro is missing his son Jimeno Martínez de Luna.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimeno_de_Luna
https://historia-hispanica.rah.es/ (search needed)
And here on Geni with wrong parents but correct siblings
Jimeno de Luna
Teresa Martínez de Luna
I do not see this Pedro Jr at https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ARAGONESE%20NOBILITY.htm#PedroLuna... so far
I believe it might be a simple move, but each profile needs a biography before we progress, at the least showing parents & spouse.
Pedigree:
Antipope Benedict XIII > Juan Martinez de Luna, señor de Mediana, Illueca y Gotor > Juan Martínez de Luna, Señor de Illueca > Pedro Martinez de Luna, “Junior” & Elvira Pérez de Sessé
Teresa Martínez de Luna is the (older) profile on Geni & should be the “main” one.
Medlands does not list parents for 3 siblings:
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ARAGONESE%20NOBILITY.htm#PedroLuna...
Are we in agreement so far?
And since some like to see the coats of arms on profiles, here is Casa de Luna
CC BY-SA 3.0ver términos
Archivo:Arms of the Aragonese House of Luna.svg
Post https://www.geni.com/discussions/298052?msg=1765051 vs
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_de_Luna (translated)
Impressive! and it all looked nice and colorful:)
Blank blocked MPs, and lots of nice colored COAs everywhere :O
(one upload per every profile obviously, knowing how to use TAGs and the same JPG for the whole family is too much:)
even just passing by here to try to document with primary sources and signals risks lynching.. by masked obviously:)
*https://www.geni.com/photo/view?album_type=photos_of_me&id=6000...
Now, getting the TAGs back, the name of the responsible, and his apologies for the abuse, I suppose is as usual unthinkable? (exactly like the other one by the way:)
I have not moved anyone yet, and I’m not sure all the profiles have notes.
The DIY (do it yourself) links are from https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_de_Luna “overview” and conflict, I think, with the detailed Wikipedia pages. So that also needs another go around.
sorry, the temporary "white JPG" for the profiles to be better highlighted,
and the JPG "no info inside" JPG to indicate where not to look,
were deliberately compromised..
sorry but I have to put a limit on this abuse, going beyond that is ridiculous..
..it would be like operating with the anesthetist who trips you up and makes the equipment fall.
No sorry Erica Howton
I hate to disappoint you, but while I was studying to attach primary sources to:
Pedro V Martínez de Luna, “el Viejo”
everyone can see on his wife TAB changes:
Violante de Alagon
"edit war" JPG & Customer Service delete.. 7:16 PM (+1)
7:16 PM (+1) also on Garci Alvarez De Albornoz, IV señor de Albornoz
and you will find 7:16 PM (+1) on all the others.
Customer Service Is not a curator. That is Geni support. That’s who I opened the ticket with. And they’re the ones to discuss it with (USA business hours).
I think Pedro V Martínez de Luna, “el Viejo” d. 1326 (m. Violante de Alagon) was the son of Pedro Martinez de Luna, “Junior” d. bef 1282 (m. Elvira Pérez de Sessé).
He’s not listed at Medlands, but his sons are - Pedro the old, Juan, Jimeno. Additionally Wikipedia shows daughters Theresa
Pedro the old at Medlands is Pedro Martínez de Luna y Sessé (b. Abt 1270 - d. 1326) at https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Mart%C3%ADnez_de_Luna_y_Sessé
I found a chart at https://gw.geneanet.org/mrodriguez56?lang=en&n=martinez+de+luna&oc=...
http://www.uv.es/~ximocarr/lunas1.txt
A bit hard to read.
if is "el Viejo" is a DUP…
Pedro IV Martínez de Luna (m Pedro IV Martínez de Luna) is not a Dup.
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ARAGONESE%20NOBILITY.htm#PedroLuna... Notes the extracts are of unknown reliability, and presume 2 different men nicknames “the old.”
but Pedro IV Martínez de Luna has "el Viejo" on both the DIY and TXT charts,
and yet it is not the "el Viejo" primaried sorced "el Viejo" di ML Pedro V Martínez de Luna, “el Viejo” that they call "Mayor Pedro III "..
the problem is where the hell Margarida Dionís comes from
here it is..
the famous well known old site of unfounded suggestions:
-https://fabpedigree.com/s093/f957201.htm
Erica I don't know where you found that TXT,
and if you give it any credibility, even just from the technical skills used to compose it.
T.T -http://www.uv.es/~ximocarr/lunas1.txt
In any case if you want to try to read it you need a horizontal screen, and use the zoom out command (Ctrl -) until everything is open, otherwise it goes to automatic line break, as and worse than a banal text sheet: precisely TXT.
if you see double horizontal lines, you are precisely looking at a straight line that is going to line break T.T
I checked it going up the kings of Sicily, and it does not follow Geni.
It means all or nothing since in that I see the usual same names that by now in my eyes have lost every all scientific value :)
@Erica ok I'm seeing some of your movements that are starting to make sense, but the area is really plagued by professional painters:
(+) Ximéno de Urrea XD
I can’t do the whole Middle Ages, you know.
For a silly image like that, you could report and let Geni customer support examine.
https://help.geni.com/hc/en-us/articles/229704767-How-can-I-report-...
If you believe a photo is inappropriate or spam, you may report it to our customer service department. Simply click on the "Report As Inappropriate" link on the photo page. Add a comment and click "Submit."
Report As Inappropriate https://www.geni.com/report/index/photo-6000000217899700842
yes I could..
but since in the other half Middle Ages already done, it has never served any purpose, and that I can't chase unarmed all the reckless actions like the fantasy painters..
I think I'll opt to give a chance to gain awareness, by commenting on how many dollars amazon sells that halloween costume for..
which tries to replicate a famous film set on the other side of the Mediterranean..
And in case if didn't know it:
that clothes, colors, and coats of arms, in the Middle Ages all had a precise social, place, and lineage indication!
Towards the North & East & South it worked sometimes, if nothing else it generated some back and forth :)
In these parts of the Iberian Peninsula, however, it is proving to be quite difficult...
(with very incorrect reactions with administrative cancellation abuses.. with absolutely never a apology or compensation even when then demonstrated fantasy administrations all distorted:)
..although now that you make me think about it,
I don't think I've ever met a Spaniard or Portuguese around,
yes yes I know now you will introduce me to thousands of them,
and yet so far only from the Tropic of Cancer downwards >.<