Iba Anthonique van Timor, SM/PROG - Iba van Timor and Ansela van de Caap (Campher) could not have been biological sisters

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SEE mtDNA Y for daughter Catrina !!!

Iba van Timor and Ansela van de Caap (Campher) could not have been biological sisters, as their descendants do not share the same mtDNA haplogroup.The finding seems to confirm that Catharina de Beer was indeed a descendant of the exiled Amsoeboe and Inabe van Timor (haplogroup N is consistent with Timorese ancestry) - while Ansela van de Caap was not. :: Not only is Anselas haplogroup of L0a consistent with African ancestry

Haplogroup Y1a2 – Koryak, Even (Kamchatka)

Catrina Blom, b1 SM

If true Catrina Blom ( de Beer ) decsendants Y2 mtdna then not daughter of Iba van Timor married to Barend Pieterse Blom,

THIS might be true

Catharina de Berault, baptised on 5th November 1684, supposedly the daughter of Louis de Berault and Catharina van de Kaap, and said to have married Barend Pieterse Blom, is the subject of this baptism entry:

eodem dito (5 November 1684)

{De name der gedoopen} Catharina

{de ouders} [Kees] de Bo[e]r en Catharina

{de getuigen} Marytie van Juffr. Beroo

The above is from the eGSSA transcription of Cape Town Baptisms for 1665-1695. The original had the details across the page in columns which were transcribed vertically and I have added the headings in braces for clarity. The entry refers to Catharina Cornelisz, daughter of Cornelis Claesz of Utrecht, aka Kees de Boer, the very same Catharina referred to at the end of the Barend Pietersz Blom entry, where it states that some sources give her baptism date as 5 November 1784 and explains that this refers to the daughter of Kees de Boer. However, Kees de Boer married Catharina van Bengalen / Malabar / De Cust Coromandel on 15th March 1676 - "Den 15 Dito (Maart 1676) Cornelis Claasz van Uytregt vrijborger en Catharina van Malbaar" (Cape Town Marriages 1665-1695; eGSSA transcription) - and could not have fathered a daughter baptised more than a century later.

There is an article by Mansell Upham ("The Soetkoek Syndrome", written in 2001 and reproduced in a posting in the RootsWeb BUITENPOSTEN mailing list in February 2005), in which he concludes that the wife of Barend Pieterse Blom was one Catharina de Beer, origin unknown, and not a daughter of Louis de Berault and Catharina van de Kaap. The article explains in some detail how a "mythology" developed around the subject, but there is a simple alternative to disprove Louis de Berault's connection with Catharina "de Berault": Catharina was baptised in Cape Town in November 1684, and Louis de Berault did not arrive at the Cape until nearly four years later, on the Zuid-Beveland on 19th August 1688, along with his sister Anne and her husband Rev Paul Simond (I cannot find a primary source for this - perhaps someone can oblige - but I do not believe it is disputed).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_Y_(mtDNA)

https://dna-explained.com/2016/11/09/mitochondrial-dna-haplogroup-y/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_N_(mtDNA)

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