Joan Talbot - could Joan Talbot be the dau of Richard rather than Gilbert?

Like Geni, https://www.thepeerage.com/p20352.htm#i203519 states she was the dau of Gilbert and Ann le Botlier.
Citations
1. [S37] BP2003 volume 1, page 682. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
2. [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume XII/1, page 610. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Carew_(died_1311) states she was the dau of Gilbert and Ann le Botlier

https://ukga.org/browse.php?action=ViewRec&DB=13&bookID=232...
The Visitations of Cornwall, 1530, 1573, & 1620 pg 68 Pedigree chart states she was the dau of Gilbert and Ann le Botlier

However, others state she was the dau of Richard, son of Gilbert,.based on writings of Douglas Richardson.

https://myfamilysearch.net/getperson.php?personID=I6263&tree=20...
RESEARCH NOTES
1. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
SARAH DE BEAUCHAMP, married 7 Jan. 1268/9 (date of her father's will) RICHARD TALBOT (or TALEBOT), of Eccleswall (in Linton), Credenhill, Linton, and Weston, Herefordshire, Sheriff of Gloucester, 1299-1301, son and heir of Gilbert Talbot, of Eccleswall, Herefordshire, by Gwenthlian, daughter of Rhys Mechyll, of Dynevor, South Wales. He was born about 1250. They had three sons, Gilbert, Knt [1st Lord Talbot], Richard, and Thomas [Rector of Credenhill, Herefordshire], and two daughters, Gwenllian (wife of Pain de Turberville, Knt.) and Joan.

https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1028.htm...
Joan Talbot1,2,3
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
F, #30873, d. after 1350
Father Richard Talbot, Sheriff of Gloucester2,4 b. c 1250, d. c 3 Sep 1306
Mother Sarah Beauchamp2,4 d. a Jul 1317
     Joan Talbot married Sir John de Carew, son of Sir Nicholas Carew and Amicia Peverell; They had 1 son (Sir John) & 1 daughter (Joan, wife of Sir Guy de Bryan).2,3 Joan Talbot died after 1350; She married (2) John de Dartmouth.2
Family
Sir John de Carew d. c 1324
Children
    Sir John Carew, Baron Carew, Sheriff of Cork, King's Escheator & Justiciar of Ireland+2 d. 16 May 1363
    Joan de Carew+5,2 b. c 1310, d. b 10 Jul 1350
Citations
1    [S9517] Unknown author, Wallop Family, p. 178.
2   [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 1.
3   [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 114.
4   [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 113-114.
5   [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 542.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Talbot-64
Joan de Dartmouth formerly Talbot aka Carew
Born 1282 in Eccleswall Manor, Herefordshire, England
Ancestors  
Daughter of Richard Talbot and Sarah (Beauchamp) Talbot
Sources
1. ↑ ROYAL ANCESTRY by Douglas Richardson Vol. II, page 1
2. ↑ ROYAL ANCESTRY by Douglas Richardson Vol. V page 114-115
• ROYAL ANCESTRY by Douglas Richardson Vol. II, page 1
• ROYAL ANCESTRY by Douglas Richardson Vol. V page 114-115
• The Visitation of the County of Cornwall, in the year 1620. Publications of the Harleian Society. 1874, pp 28-32 (see p 30) Carew Pedigree HathiTrust "(1) Elinor da. & heir of Wm. Mohun of Ottery. = John Carreu Lord of C. &c. ob. 17 E. 2. = (2) Joan da. of Sir Gilbert Talbot."

If Joan Talbot who married John Carew was born between 1282 and 1295 it could be difficult for her father to be Gilbert married to Anne Boteler as he was born 1276. Unless Joan WAS born 1295, which is on the extreme end of what most sites assign. Richard the son of Gillbert Talbot and Anne Boteler was born 1305 which eliminates him as her father.

Gilbert who married Gwendolne had a son Richard who married Sarah Beauchamp. That Richard was born 1250. He would be a better fit for a father for Joan Talbert born 1282 to 1295, AND that seems to be what Douglas Richardson thinks. I think he is sometimes wrong, but mostly I feel he knows his facts.

The VISITATIONS OF CORNWALL WHICH SEEMS THE SOURCE FOR GILBERT BEING HER FATHER, WAS TAKEN 200-300 YEARS AFTER THE FACT. COULD IT BE THAT DOUGLAS RICHARDSON IS CORRECT THAT IT WAS RICHARD NOT GILBERT WHO WAS FATHER OF JOAN TALBERT, AND THE VISITATIONS IS WRONG?