Jaakko Eriksson Uppa - Possible Ancestors / Mahdolliset esi-isät

Started by Private User on Saturday, August 14, 2021
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Private User
8/14/2021 at 6:43 AM

ENGLISH: This is a hint from Ancestry. The gentleman who posted this tree has an extensive tree on Ancestry, however, this information is based on other trees. I have not been able to find any source to back up this information.

Jaakko Erikkonpoika Uppa
BIRTH 1595 Ilmajoki, Etelä-Pohjanmaan maakunta, Länsi-Suomen lääni, Finland (DIFFERENT from our Nov 1598)

DEATH 31 JAN 1692 Ilmajoki, Etelä-Pohjanmaan maakunta, Länsi-Suomen lääni, Finland

Family Info:
Father: Erkki Klemetinpoika Jouppi Uppa (1550–1738)
Mother: Raakel Olavintytär Jouppi (Uppa) (1550–1611)
Spouse: Barbro Mulle Stutaeus (1595–1684)
Children:
1. Jaakko (1609–1656)
2. Matti Jaakkonpoika (1609–1695) or Matti Jaakonpoika (1610–1656)
3. Jaakko Jaakonpoika (1620–1695)
4. Sipi Jaakkonpoika (1620–1656) or Sipi Jaakkonpoika (1620–1695)
5. Tuomas Jaakonpoika (1625–1695) or Tuomas/Tomas/Thomas Jaakonpoika/Jakobsson (1635–1695) or Tuomas Jaakonpoika (1639–1695)
6. Jaakko Jaakkonpoika (1639–1695)
7. Kerttu Jaakontytar (1647–1717) or Kerttu Jaakontytar (1649–1717)

SUOMI: Tämä on vihje Esivanhemmilta. Tämän puun lähettäneellä herralla on laaja puu Esivanhemmat, mutta nämä tiedot perustuvat muihin puihin. En ole löytänyt mitään lähdettä näiden tietojen varmuuskopioimiseksi.

Jaakko Erikkonpoika Uppa
BIRTH 1595 Ilmajoki, Etelä-Pohjanmaan maakunta, Länsi-Suomen lääni, Finland (ERITTÄIN marraskuusta 1598)

KUOLEMA 31. TAMMIKUU 1692 Ilmajoki, Etelä-Pohjanmaan maakunta, Länsi-Suomen lääni, Finland

Perhetiedot:
Isä: Erkki Klemetinpoika Jouppi Uppa (1550–1738)
Äiti: Raakel Olavintytär Jouppi (Uppa) (1550–1611)
Puoliso: Barbro Mulle Stutaeus (1595–1684)
Lapset:
1. Jaakko (1609–1656)
2. Matti Jaakkonpoika (1609–1695) tai Matti Jaakonpoika (1610–1656)
3. Jaakko Jaakonpoika (1620–1695)
4. Sipi Jaakkonpoika (1620–1656) tai Sipi Jaakkonpoika (1620–1695)
5. Tuomas Jaakonpoika (1625–1695) tai Tuomas/Tomas/Thomas Jaakonpoika/Jakobsson (1635–1695) tai Tuomas Jaakonpoika (1639–1695)
6. Jaakko Jaakkonpoika (1639–1695)
7. Kerttu Jaakontytar (1647–1717) tai Kerttu Jaakontytar (1649–1717)

Private User
8/14/2021 at 12:06 PM

I am not quite sure what you mean. Are you saying that there is some tree in Geni that do not match up, or tree in "Ancestry". Someone has posted a family tree here in geni? Or where?

In the page of Jaakko, there are lots of info about him. His childrens profiles has sources. What kind of sources you are looking for? It might be better to use english or your own language, Finnish is so different kind of language that google translator does not work well always, and we can figure out if there is something what we can help you with :)

Private User
8/15/2021 at 5:24 AM

Geni and Ancestry do not match (no surprise there). Geni seems to have a better communication between people who do work on a tree/line. I had a hint in Ancestry for this ancestor and the children for Jaakko do not match up with Geni. I was hoping that some of the folks working on this line have some type of input as to whether or not any of these are correct. As you can see, there are come conflicting dates for the children. The Ancestry hint, when followed through, does not come across any source to support the names and/or dates.

Right from the start, I am dismissing the first two children as Jaakko's wife would have only been 10/11 years old. Then the last few children listed are a possible dismissal as she would have been 45-52 years old.

8/15/2021 at 5:52 AM

Here is something to read, but it is in Finnish:

http://www.uppa.sukuseura.fi/uppalan-talon

Private User
8/15/2021 at 7:04 AM

Thank you so very much Sulotar. I use my computer to help with the translations and am able to read the site.

Private User
8/16/2021 at 11:49 PM

There were three farms originally in Seinäjoki, Uppa, Jouppi and Marttila.
It is not known that they would have same origin.

In Jouppi there was a ”kievari”, place where to sleep and eat and drink during travelling. No kievari in Uppa.

the profiles have been closed in geni because they are based on the latest, maybe best information, available today.

as it has been mentioned earlier the times are not exac from those days, they are simply not known..

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