Rev. James Anderson, Sr. - Another merger proposed for Rev. James Anderson and his father George yesterday.

Started by Gary Allen Singleton on Wednesday, October 28, 2020
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10/28/2020 at 5:10 PM

With George H. Anderson in there as a brother of Rev. James Anderson, it looks fine. I see George H. leads on down his line to John b1730, then to Lewis b1759 and finally all the way down that line to Gillian Weaver who developed that lineage. She should be congratulated for that. However, there is no need to merge Capt. George Anderson born ??? to George Anderson we now have as born circa 1654. There are problems with merging with Capt. George born 1670 because that does not conform with having James in 1678. The problems come with using the 1st documentation from Scotland giving the 1672 marriage date to Capt. George and Mary Jane Matthews. Then secondly it uses a 1645 christening record for the new child James and then a 1627 marriage record in Scotland for the marriage of James' parents George Andersone and Healen Hodge. This does not match up at all. It looks like just the family lineage for Capt. George Anderson and Mary Jane Matthews and about half of a generation wrong in the family events. So I do not approve of this merger of Capt. George into this family tree bringing with him parents, James and Marion, and James parents George Andersone and Healen Hodge. We are then still in this search for the identity of the father of Rev. James Anderson besides giving him and Mary Jane their names. So how do we do this, disconnect the just plain with no children James Anderson b1678 from Capt. George, cutting off that 3 generations of unknowns belonging to them. Then Gillian would have the connection at least all the way up to George and Mary Jane as we have them now. Then we can keep on working on George's life and ancestry in the future. I have been taking looks at researching this for about 6 months now and it is tough. To me we need to find out how many Andersons were in the Donegal and Hanover Presbyterian Churches back in the early 1700s. I suspect there may be two, one the pastor and the other a parishioner but with the same name James Anderson and with one born in 1678 and the other 1683 as found by Dr. Leitch. We need more discussion on this and help before we make any more moves on this.

10/31/2020 at 9:47 AM

Nobody is adding or answering this discussion so I am going to reject the merger very soon.

10/31/2020 at 10:04 AM

Thank you.

11/1/2020 at 6:01 AM

Merger denied now.

11/1/2020 at 6:36 AM

plus I disconnected Gillian's James Anderson from her George H. and Capt. George since it is impossible for James Anderson to fit with them. Capt. George would need a much earlier birthdate and to be disconnected from the James presently above him. George H. might be a brother of Rev. James Anderson but not with Gillian's Capt. George as their father. Okay everybody? hope so.

11/1/2020 at 8:30 AM

Yes.
I get myself in way too deep at times when I try to reconcile these near duplicates by making the corrections when really that should fall on the person with the bad profile... I just know that most often they ARE the same person but with errors and when I see a correct profile with a wrong souse I go hunting but that is a distraction. I find the Discussion tabs very helpful but we are not always able to see or to respond to the ags in a timely manner. Many people upload gedcoms or add unsourced profiles and then abandon them so they get muddied or they sit in their error for a time. The further back up the tree, the more difficult for some records...
Any way. That is my philosophy-- to help and try not to harm, when working in the Big Tree. And only ONE profile per person :)

11/1/2020 at 8:30 AM

*spouse not souse :p

11/2/2020 at 9:06 AM

Thanks, Cynthia. You are so right and I responded by messaging Gillian, but she seems to be out of touch at the moment.....as well as the others connected with the Anderson profiles. Oh well, we will see if anything more turns up. But for now we are safe with the way it is and we have for sure made some headway in getting further understanding about all this line.

11/2/2020 at 10:20 AM

Rev. James Anderson, Sr. is your 9th great grandfather.
You
→ Geneive Melba Hicks
your mother → Ossie Mae Emerson
her mother → Maudie Mae Pratt
her mother → Margaret Frances Crawshaw
her mother → Benjamin Franklin Brown
her father → Margaret Brown
his mother → Nancy Dempsey
her mother → Agnes Thompson
her mother → William Wood, Sr
her father → Susannah Woods
his mother → Rev. James Anderson, Sr.
her father

Brown is a difficult line but I have DNA confirmation, autosomal and with those matching on the X for Dempsey.

Thank you for caring about the genealogy, Gary Allen Singleton
:)

11/3/2020 at 7:18 AM

You and I first met as cousins from the brothers, Howell and Nathaniel Brewer which is one of the heaviest investigated through their dna. My Brewer gt. gf married Lauretta Jane Ingram whose grandmother was Sarah Stewart from Sharpsburg, Eta real close to Pittsburgh. That connected me to George Stewart I of Donegal Twp, PA as an uncle. A descendant of George I asked me to sort out the problems he had with George's George II line. I worked it out by the use of the Stewart Clan Magazine issues. Then I noticed the confusion over the son of George named John born 1705. It developed that he married ANN ANDERSON DAUGHTER OF REV. James ANDERSON. So to me "first cousin 7 times removed's wife's father." is my relationship, not a blood relationship. Nevertheless, being then connected automatically to Rev. James, I was notified of an attempt to merge another James Anderson to Rev. James. One of the latter's descendants noticed my work on these related trees and she asked me to help with this. It turned out that the merger had to be rejected. But it sure informed me about the Rev. James story. That is how I have been working on this line for some 6 months now. It really is a long process and we have to wait for developments. Thanks

11/3/2020 at 7:28 AM

Anne Brannen also worked with me on the George Stewart line.

11/3/2020 at 7:49 AM

Some days I feel as though I am racing the clock..... I know is all just a matter of time and more DNA to compare and more people to SET the lines straight.
The internet is a blessing and a curse.
The curators are what make Geni a more desirable place to work on lines.
Anne is a treasure.
I am always curious about Brewer because they have been so difficult to untangle, even for a male Brewer!
I plan to get a mermaid tattoo in honor of my uncle who fostered my love for genealogy and DNA and used to draw them for me when I was a little girl and it is a symbol of the Brewer name....
Genealogy makes me feel closer to my roots and as an ARMY brat child of divorce raised by father and in different parts of the world, I love those roots.
:D

11/5/2020 at 7:32 AM

My mother was born a Brewer and she had a brother William Brewer who had a son he named William Brewer II. The latter is my first cousin and he is still living at age 83. He has been in charge of our Brewer line from 1974-2010. He is listed on the BrewerDNA Project available to all on the internet. He is the kit listed as a Brewer descendant of Bryant (Briant) Brewer b 1799 and grouped in the George G. group. He is trying to get me to improve the pros and cons of who exactly is our Thomas Brewer husband of Lucretia Brewer and born 1765. When I first put all this together on Geni, quite frankly the line from John "Tadody" de Braose all the way up to George G. was rather a mess. So I worked and worked on it. All the successive generations were already there on Geni. It just needed someone one to smooth out the Brewer line of Stinton Hall and show how they got Stinton and what they did with it. It was interesting. Then of course there were the three successive John Brewer's starting with "of London" of ending with "of Virginia." When I did that part on Geni, the Johns were confused with those from Massachusetts and those from Virginia and the same with their wives. I disconnected any profile there which came from Massachusetts and somewhere while doing that I noticed that Erica Howton, I think, was agreeing with me. I corresponded with the Massachusetts Brewers to explain what I was doing and of course then fully understood their point of view and problem. So it is what it is and the major difference in their dna being R and ours I just proves what we have on there now. I had the experience since the 1970s of doing the Mendenhalls in England and working on the separation of the Bedwyn and Marriage Hill Wiltshire separate lines. then in current times, we actually got a Bedwyn line current Mendenhall/Mildenhall to do his deep YDNA which matched our Marriage Hill YDNA showing the two lines as being 15th cousins, thus proving the 15th century separation of the two lines and proving our mendenhall.org family trees. That was nice. It has been a long 46 year journey.

11/5/2020 at 9:15 AM

Yes. The importance of collaboration and sheer numbers of people needed to DNA match and understand what they are seeing cannot be overstated.

I have difficulty with the Y DNA interpretation. I liken it to the change in categorizing of hurricanes years ago or trying to learn the metric system when one was raised with the Imperial system... perhaps if I had a Y chrome myself, I would work it out and be able to incorporate it. But it takes many men to test and my father's father was an only child of the marriage. I have been able to confirm my male Hicks line with a cousin who did the Y study... I will leave it at that but it is nice to confirm and move along to the next link up the chain.

My issue right now is that since DNA testing almost three years ago, I have been cutting lines and basically trying to build a tree from scratch. I am my mother's daughter and my father's daughter but they only knew a few generations themselves. ANd they were neither 100% European/UK. That NA and AA is very difficult to suss out.

DNA and especially Gedmatch and Geni together have allowed me to break several brick walls this past year and I am frustrated many days but every day I log in, I think, "today may be the day..."

11/5/2020 at 10:01 AM

good work, resulting in your having such a large number on your 4 generation family tree!! It took me a long time and help from several near cousins to reach 705.

11/5/2020 at 10:04 AM

and 62000+ ancestors. That doesn't indicate much cutting of lines. I have been stable now for about 9 months at just over 34000 ancestors despite adding many new lines up the tree.

11/5/2020 at 10:09 AM

:D

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