Pvt. John M. Sarvis, CSA - Parentage for Pvt. John M. Sarvis

Started by Susanne Floyd on Saturday, May 23, 2020
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  • Source Information Ancestry.com. U.S., War of 1812 Pension Application Files Index, 1812-1815 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Original data:War of 1812 Pension Applications. Washington D.C.: National Archives. Index to War of 1812 Pension Application Files, 1960 - 1960. Microfilm publication M313, 102 rolls. NAID: 563315. Records of the Department of Veterans Affairs, 1773 - 2007, Record Group Number 15. National Archives at Washington, D.C.
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Find a Grave lists his Pvt. John M. Sarvis' parents Samuel and Rhoda (Watts) Sarvis in the information section. When I look at those profiles on Geni,

Samuel Sarvis

Rhoda Sarvis

I find another "John" already attached as son, who also existed about the same time, just a few differences in years.

Private John Reynolds Sarvis

Pvt.(CSA), John M. Sarvis married into another line of mine (Skipper) and I was tracing through and trying to find some connection to my Sarvis line as it was the only line of Sarvis' in the County, all having come from old John William Sarvis, I.

Would it be possible that the two Johns would be brothers? I know in cultures it is common and have run across it before. Samuel's father is John William Sarvis, Revolutionary War patriot. John is a name found throughout the family and I am a descendant of John William Sarvis and pretty familiar with most of the trees. I am having a hard time finding real primary evidence that either is the son of Samuel and Rhoda. But would love to see it for John Reynolds too. All I find are "trees" which as most of us know give us spotty and most often inaccurate information, but we all use them at various times. Ancestry had John M. Sarvis as John MacReynolds Sarvis and attached to Samuel and Rhoda in several trees along with John Reynolds in some cases. I can find nothing of the MacReynolds name anywhere in sources. So there is that out the window, until I do.

Both of these men have distinct careers in the Civil War. Both are from Horry County and to borrow a phrase from one of my new best friends, I bubble-gum betcha they are related somehow through John William Sarvis. It could be that one is son of the illusive Gabriel Sarvis, brother of Samuel who existed but left little trail.

Anyone want to give a look for clarity, I would appreciate it. It's obvious, John M. belongs to the family. There is a dead zone in the documents of the United States during Colonial and Early American periods up through at least 1850 and it makes me ill that women are nameless and children are nameless and unconnected. Susanne

Update to Private John Reynolds Sarvis - Find a Grave has now updated his profile to show that his mother is an unknown wife of John William Sarvis I.

"John Reynolds Sarvis was born February 18, 1812 in Horry County, South Carolina, the son of Samuel J. Sarvis, Jr., a veteran of the War of 1812, and his first wife (name unknown). Rhoda Watts Sarvis was his stepmother. John married Elizabeth Ruth “Ruthie” Hardee Sarvis, and the couple had eleven children: Thomas Lester Sarvis, William Scarborough Sarvis, Edward "Ned" Charles Sarvis, Helan Sarvis King, Sharlotte Ada Sarvis Neely, Rhoda Mary Elizabeth "Lizzie" Sarvis Cartrette, Dock Joseph “Puss” Sarvis, James Scarborough Sarvis, George Marsden Sarvis (killed in a sawmill fire), Eahmon A. Sarvis (killed in a sawmill fire), and Bowden Sarvis (killed in a sawmill fire). Some have misidentified Elizabeth Rebecca Ann “Lizzie” Prince Fowler as John’s wife, but fellow Sarvis descendant and my fourth cousin, Johnny Otto Sarvis, Jr., is certain John’s wife was Elizabeth Ruth “Ruthie” Hardee Sarvis, and he is probably correct."

I think the profile needs to reflect this new information. SFG

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