Need Help Sorting Connections

Good Luck with these Needhams and Bryans. I have them all up and down my line and the names mix and match and are all over the place. I get a headache just trying to figure out the closest 5 generations here in North Carolina.

Ditto what Arthur said. The Bryan(t)s are a genealogy nightmare.

I recently heard from an experienced researcher, maybe I can get him to look at the question.

Randall Thompson You wrote to me about Luke Bryan

Any insight into Needham Bryan / Alice MacLand?

Get your self a membership to the FamilySearch.org and then access this posting. The membership is free. The Bryans that I am related to are all on there and some of them are related to Daniel Boone and my 4th Gr-grandfather, Bazel Boren who was married to Susannah [Bryan] 1st cousin of Rebecca [Bryan] Boone, wife of Daniel Boone, explorer of Kentucky and Tennessee https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/19956789?cid=mem_copy

One thing I had forgotten to mention to Debbie Gambrell - the Needham maiden name is a fabrication.

Curator note: for Alice Bryan

daughter of Lord Needham" is most likely a myth or fabrication. There is NO proof either Lord Needham whose dates match could have had a daughter named Alice

So any documents are simply repeating a myth.

The Findagrave is particularly bad, with a fake portrait, no less.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/185679160/alice-bryan

Randall Thompson I don't like FamilySearch. Every connection to me on there has errors in it. I fixed one part of my tree there that was very flawed but someone changed it all to the erros and I don't have the time or inclination to keep trying to fix it. Bottom line, I don't trust much of what I see on there unless I can find validation elsewhere. I much prefer Geni and Ancestry.

I am related to the Boone's several ways, being a Morgan descendant myself (so related to Sarah Morgan Boone, and sharing the much farther back Bohun connection to the Boone lines, as well as the Bryan cousin lines. Just a variety of connections there, so you and I are surely related multiple ways. lol

Erica Howton I wasn't aware of the fabrication but that explains why I couldn't find anything validating Alice Bryant (MacLand).

After you get the membership, it will make it possible for you access a whole lot of information on the Bryan families. In the meantime, I am going to see if there is any connection between your Bryans' and mine. Susannah [Bryan] Boren was my 4th Gr-grandmother and often accompanied her husband, Bazel and even fought beside him in skirmishes with Blackfish, War Chief of the Chillicothe division of the Shawnee Tribe. She was also involved with him in numerous battles with the British and I believe she was with him when he defeated and killed Major Patrick Ferguson (inventor of the Ferguson Rifle) on Kings Mountain, in North Carolina, on 7 October 1780.

You will find my records to be fairly accurate because, when changes are made and are not correct, I make them prove to me that their entries are correct or remove them. My records are from journals and books that were written in the times and are reliable sources. Like this one: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/19956789?cid=mem_copy

It would be wonderful if everyone was as diligent about accuracy. I think everything that can be should be documented with validating sources.

I am always instantly informed of any changes and/or additions made on any of my tree and yes, there have been a few that I have had to take to task. Once I have helped them make the corrections, they become better and more accurate on their researches, as everyone should be.

https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/58910885?cid=mem_copy This is my Bryan Family line back to royalty from my 4th Gr-grandmother. I don't know if it helps you or not but, I have checked it out and it is correct.

I'm a Bryan descedant, so I'm definitely interested in checking it out. I hadn't seen it before, so thanks for sharing the link! :)

I am a descendant from this bouillabaisse of Bryan/Bryant/et.al. variations of the surname as well, on ‘Both’ paternal and maternal sides. My problem has always been ‘Veracity’ — the Bryan Bryant et.al. Variations in surname have always been mythical and mysterious. I am Very suspect of ‘Find a Grave’ and virtually all other genealogical companies & renditions.

Keep on plug-in’

We cannot find surviving children of Sir Francis Bryan, KB, ‘The Vicar of Hell’ so the royalty ancestry doesn’t hold up on this path.

Debbie,
Hi Cousin, i am a Bryan and Bryant descendant. I want to say that Alice was a MacLand. I descend from Bryan on dads side, and Bryant on moms side. Maybe i could be of some help to you. Let me know.