Deborah Crowe - Please resolve conflicts

Started by Allx Little-Cole on Wednesday, July 17, 2019
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7/17/2019 at 3:08 AM

I merged these two profiles as they both seem to be of my 10th grt gma, BUT I a unable to resolve conflicts on my cellphone. Could someone with a computer please review and resolve conflicting information? Thank you!

P.S. If a straight female to female descendant can be found and mitochondrial DNA tested, the mitochondrial Haplogroup should prove it she was Native or European.

7/17/2019 at 8:33 AM

My connection to "Deborah Crowe"Crowell is through my mother side of the family.I do have my DNA from ANCESTRY,but alas I don't know how to put it on.I have asked for help to no avail.P:S I am a straight female.Let me know what you need,anxious to help . Minetta Brown

7/17/2019 at 9:23 AM

Hi again I just checked my records and found that "Deborah Crowe"was my (7th.Great-Grandmother")and Alexander Wamsutta Pokanoket,was my 8th.Great-Grandfather.Which I am proud of.BUT! I found out "King Phillip"Was also related.My son got me a couple of books on them.Very interested in my heritage.Thanks for your interest.
Minetta Brown

7/18/2019 at 7:39 AM

Unless you are are a straight female descendant, don't worry to much. If your mother's, mother's, mother's all the way go back to her, please go to a company with mitochondrial DNA and find out and share your Haplogroup.:) If your path to her is broken by a man, it won't work.

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7/18/2019 at 10:09 AM

In my estimation, best choice for MtDNA is FamilyTreeDNA - and do the Full sequencing - believe now called MtFull Sequence - but do it while it is on sale, rather than paying full price.
Also, either also do the FamilyFinder there or transfer your Ancestry Results there - so far, that is the only company for which you can link DNA Results to Geni.
Transferring should be free. Transferring would give FamilyFinder Results.
Be sure, if you do go for MtDNA and either transferring or testing there for FamilyFinder that the two tests are ordered for the SAME Kit - do not order them for separate Kits!! (rather, establish Kit with one, then order the other as Upgrade from that Kit)

7/18/2019 at 10:52 AM

Hello,as far as I can find is:Unknown "Aquinnah"name was "MARY" married Covell I thought she was an Ancestor of mine through CHAPPELL & Crocker.But I was wrong,but she was a sister of my Deborah Crowell,I see Alix we are 8cousins thrice removed,we do have the same direct line through CORSON-TAYLOR etc:
Good to meet you CUZ,Happy tracking. Minetta Brown

So Deborah Crowe shows being married to Thomas Crowe and Thomas Crowell and Thomas Crowell Sr --- are these all the same man?

7/19/2019 at 8:30 PM

I believe that Thomas Crowell Sr. is a different person from the other two and that he might be incorrectly attached to Deborah. From what I read, Thomas Crowell, Sr. married an Agnes and with her had his sons John and Thomas Jr.. Unless I am wrong I suggest that we remove Thomas Crowell from Agnes.

7/19/2019 at 8:32 PM

/\ I meant to say that we should remove Thomas Crowell, Sr. from Deborah. Sorry.

7/20/2019 at 5:39 AM

Thomas is my direct line & I have researched him his family for years,through it all I believe he was married to "Deborah"

7/20/2019 at 7:25 AM

Dear Minetta May Brown , you are correct, your Thomas Crowe/Crowell did marry Deborah, but the problem is that we currently have Deborah attached to two different Thomas Crowell's: Thomas Crowell (1645-1690 not your ancestor and not actually married to Deborah) and Thomas Crowe /Crowell (1649-1722 your ancestor). Unless Deborah had a thing for men named Thomas Crowell, one of them (Thomas Crowell Sr. 1645-1690, not your ancestor) is incorrectly attached to Deborah.

7/20/2019 at 7:56 AM

Hi thanks for reply.Through the centuries we have all had a problem with sorting out CROW-CROWELL-.everywhere I have checked is confusing.

7/20/2019 at 8:05 AM

Hello again,I just checked and on DEBORAH my 7th gr;grandmother.
Thomas Crowe born;1649 is my 7th gr.Grandfather.
Thomas Crowell SR.1645 is Husband to 7th Gr Grandmother.it doesn't say to my Gr Grandmother go figure.

7/20/2019 at 8:18 AM

I expect that it is just a mix-up here on Geni between two different Thomas Crowells. Does anyone have any objections to disconnecting Thomas Crowell SR.1645?

Another person responded to me by email and said all 3 of them - Thomas Crowell, Thomas Crowell Sr & Thomas Crowe are all one and the same. Dates are all circa

It's like with all names, different spelling of same name -- Crow/Crowe/Crowell.

My family spells our maiden name Carr but in other places the same people are spelled as Kerr. Also my married name Buchholz has been spelled as Bucholz, Bucholtz, Buckholz, Buckholtz.

I think we are safe in saying that all 3 of those husbands are actually the same person. I think Crowe is probably the preferred spelling.

7/20/2019 at 12:03 PM

I don't think that they are the same individuals even though their name are the same.

From "Representative Men and Old Families of Southeastern Massachusetts," p. 1650 and in "John Crowe and his descendants, a genealogy," we have a Thomas Crowe/Crowell, son of John, who married an Agnes and with her had two sons John (married Sarah O'Kellia) and Thomas Jr. (married Elizabeth Jones).
https://books.google.com/books?id=GHIWAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA1650&lp...

https://archive.org/stream/johncrowehisdesc00crow/johncrowehisdesc0...

The other Thomas Crowe is a son of Yelverton Crowe and had a series of children with Deborah.

See: https://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&a...
http://www.laurenandtristan.net/4dec10update/p9.htm#i250
and https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Crow-2483

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