Barsheba (Watts) Gulledge - Parents ?

Started by Erica Howton on Sunday, January 13, 2019
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What is the evidence supporting Barsheba Watts, wife of William Gulledge as daughter of Gi-Yo-Sti-Ko-Yo-He “Gi yo sti”, of the Bird Clan ?

She was not a known daughter of Trader John Watts, Interpreter

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Watts-5161 Has her as likely the sister of Garrett Zachariah Watts and an explanation of a fraudulent claim filed for that family here: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Watts-3167

The Wikitree researcher has not nailed down parentage yet, but has a reasonable case, with citations, described for George Watts & Frances (Woodward) Taylor.

Private User I see your entries in the Gulledge tree. Have you looked into this at all?

This is the Zilpha Gulledge who married Rev. Joel Ellis Gulledge and that’s a line of Grant David Meadors

If you’re around, your input also appreciated. I see you’ve uploaded DNA tests.

Hi Erica, Rev. Joel Ellis Gulledge is my 4th Great grandfather. I've been to his church many time. All these profiles are based around Anson County, NC. Where I was born and raised. I've never seen any information that has any sources that Barsheba Watts was the daughter of Gi-Yo-Sti-Ko-Yo-He “Gi yo sti”, of the Bird Clan.

Just circumstantial evidence. I haven't looked into it much. Just that almost everyone in Anson county is related to me, LOL.

Private User Thank you for taking a look and you’ve also uploaded DNA. Magic curator vision tells me your Y DNA & mtDNA are not native Haplogroups. Do you have any reason from your atDNA test matches to think there is Native ancestry through your 5th Great grandmother?

Erica Howton The only native American I know for sure would be m,y 7th Great Grandmother Kerenhappuch Whitfield

But that isn't a straight mother to Mother line. As far as the Bathsheba DNA goes, I haven't looked into it very much but as far as I know, my DNA doesn't show any Native American other than my kids and wife have Indian DNA :)

Ok, what I thought, because you brag on your kids a lot. :):).

At your leisure, take a look at the notes here https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Watts-5161 and here https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Watts-3167 and see what you think about adding parents, we currently have Garrett with a William father. Meanwhile I’ve locked her relationships, just ask any curator to unlock if you decide it makes sense. Do you want to keep the Indian maiden image attached ?

It's pretty picture but it doens't have to stay :)

It is pretty, but I’m worried it will lead the naive down a wrong research path, so I removed from the profile (it’s still in your album). I’ll try and find something to honor her, her name is wonderful. Someone knew their Bible stories.

Can we validate Kerenhappuch Whitfield ?

All I See is this:

https://www.allthingscherokee.com/surname/happcuh/

Help! My Cherokee ancestors name is Sally Happcuh (1685-1782) and I can’t find a record of parents but I know she was born in North Carolina and supposedly from the deer clan. Can anyone find more info?

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Her husband’s sister leads to a family related to me in Hopkins County KY.

Erica, anytime someone post about deer clan stuff it always sounds like lore. This was just profiles already "out there". There's more records about Thomas but they are from England before he arrived in 1700.

I'm certain that the following should be attributed to his Son Thomas Whitfield (notice the name of the wife is Mary, that is his wife's name)

The Nash County records state.....
Name: Whitfield, Thomas Sr.
Birth Place: Nash co., NC
Marriage Place: Nash co., NC
Spouse: Mary, d. Feb 1792
Children: Thomas, Reuben, Solomon, John, William, Benjamin, Elisha, Israel, Hardy, Mary, Sarah, Mildred, Elizabeth
Death Date: Mar 1782
Death Place: Nash co., NC
Residence: Nash co., NC
Occupation: Planter

I've seen Sally listed as "Sarah" in other places.

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=4682&a...

I'll keep looking around. The name Thomas Whitfield gets mixed up in documents. I have 3 Thomas Whitfield's as 6th, 7th and 8th GGPs.

I don't see anything other than people saying that Sally/Sarah was a Cherokee.

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/61157/46155_b290436-00166?pid=...

Yes, I got here from mixing up Whitfield’s. :)

This is the Isle of Wight line I was working on, I think they’re different from the ones who went to Nash County:

Thomas Whitfield, II

BUT maybe a common origin in Elizabeth City County ?

This profile does not agree with source info (just added to “about”)

Elizabeth Harrison

https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=hom42&id=... (No Citations) has Mary Elizabeth Whitfield as the daughter of William Harrison & Cybil.

Hi Erica, Still working on the Watts line. I've met about 8 other living descendants of Barsheba via their son Rev. Joel Gulledge, my 4th GGF, that have had DNA testing. None of them have any Native America DNA so I think it's safe to say that Barsheba was not native American. Still trying to piece together her brothers and sisters.

I think there is a possibility that her Parents were white but one of her parents had children with a native American. Not sure if it would be her Dad or her Mom. But we will figure it out.

That might be where people got she was NA.

Also, can you make this profile into a MP for me? Thanks

Thomas Huntley, Sr.

Hi Private User

Interesting thought, that a parent (or other relative?) had a relationship with a Native American, and that’s how the “legend” originated. I suspect I might have something similar in my tree.

Master Profile made.

Thanks Erica :)

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