Need help merging Colonial Americans?

Carissa Hill

8/27/2022 at 3:01 PM

So note to myself... I will Always create a branch first and merge....

Erica Howton C

8/27/2022 at 3:07 PM

Should also check in Elder John Crandall of Rhode Island and his descendants / by John Cortland Crandall. by Crandall, John Cortland, 1881- (Publication date 1931).

https://archive.org/details/elderjohncrandal00cran_0/

Hatte Rubenstein Blejer C

8/27/2022 at 4:15 PM

Private User I have MPed the other Nicholas Wilbore, whose wife and parents are not the same as the Nicholas Wilbore who is the ancestor of the Massachusetts and Rhode Island Wilbores.

About Wildbore/Wilbore/Wilbor/Wilbur -- from the time of the marriage of a Wilbur with a Johnson, my Johnson family has used the name Wilbur as a first or middle name in multiple people in each generation up until today. The Johnsons often used maiden names as middle names, but none as extensively as Wilbur. We also have Perry, Browning, Marean, and other middle names from old Massachusetts families with whom we married.

Here's the rejected merge which Erica sorted out and I further MPed to prevent future merges.

https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=82418890630

Hatte Rubenstein Blejer C

8/27/2022 at 4:44 PM

I've divorced William Wilbore II from Joan Briggs and merged her with the 2nd wife of Peter Tallman, William's father-in-law.

In doing so, I found some discrepancies with the children of Peter Tallman. At least one needed to be changed to be the daughter of the first wife.

Here's one who seems out of place: Mary Tallman

Does she belong to this family?

Hatte Rubenstein Blejer C

8/27/2022 at 5:06 PM

Private User I was not able to find any sources for the other sons of Joseph Wilbore (below). Only records seem to be for his son, John. He did have four sons however. Most of the Wildbore material is from The Wildbores in America and covers the family once they settled in Massachusetts and Rhode Island.

We could change the birthdates to be more reasonable, but really we have no evidence except that there were four sons.

Joseph Wilbore

Erica Howton C

8/27/2022 at 6:27 PM

I uploaded the page about Joseph Wilbore Family to profile:

www.geni.com/media/proxy?media_id=6000000186788798899&size=large

Erica Howton C

8/27/2022 at 6:41 PM

We need to look more at this Anne Bradford / John Wilbore

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000002665496017

Not making sense yet …

Erica Howton C

8/27/2022 at 6:45 PM

John Wilbore Married Joan Wilbore only, and Anne Wildbore married Zacharias Wildbore

I’m going to merge extra Ann into the MP & break her connection to John.

Erica Howton C

8/27/2022 at 6:49 PM

Hatte Rubenstein Blejer - did Zacharias Wildbore & Anne Wildbore actually emigrate to Taunton MA?

Also, this is a Yorkshire family, not Essex - at least, the Bradford line is. Zecharias has no parents. Is perhaps this an unrelated Wilbore?

Hatte Rubenstein Blejer C

8/27/2022 at 8:47 PM

Erica Howton - the Internet is full of trees which have the wife of Samuel Wilbore as Ann Bradford, the sister of Governor William Bradford.

William Bradford, Governor of Plymouth Colony

He seems to not have had a sister named Ann even.

See for example this Internet tree: https://familypedia.fandom.com/wiki/William_Bradford_(1559-1591)

This Zacharias Wildbore was likely from Yorkshire and as you can see, all we know about him is that he married this Ann Bradford. He is, as far as we know, unrelated to the other Wilbores/

An early genealogist found a Wilbore - Ann Bradford marriage (this one presumably) and jumped to the conclusion that Samuel Wildbore, the first American Wilbore, had married Ann Bradford. That myth continued for generations.

See About of Ann (Smith) Wilbore:

According to the New England Historic and Genealogical Society in "American Ancestors", Volume 112, pp. 108/109 Ann Bradford is not the wife of Samuel Wilbore. It is Ann Smith. I will quote some:

"In 1923 I went to the city of York, England, and examined the original will of Thomas Bradford of Doncaster and found the following statement as to his daughter Ann: "To my daughter Ann Wildbore, the wife of Zacharias Wildbore"......(she did marry) according to the Boyd index at Thorne, Yorkshire, in 1607, Zacharias Wildbore.

In the year 1944, I employed Mr L. H. H. Whitehead, of Long Melford, co. Suffolk, to go to Sible Hedingham and examine the parish records. He found not only the marriage of Samuel Wilbore and Ann Smith, but also the baptisms of the five children, namely, Samuel, Junior, Jespheff or Joseph, Sidreake, Arthur, and William, these two last died at Sible Hedigham an the remainder corresponded to the children who came over with Samuel and Ann.

The author says Mr Savage in his "Genealogical Dictionary" jumped to conclusions while looking at a copy of Bradford's will that omitted the name of Ann's husband. The purpose of the copy was the search for Gov. Bradford's ancestry (not proof of his descendants). The author I quote, Benjamin Franklin Wilbour of Little Compton, RI, himself inspected the original will.

Erica Howton C

8/27/2022 at 8:49 PM

Good, that’s what I thought. I removed the Taunton MA references.

Hatte Rubenstein Blejer C

8/27/2022 at 9:09 PM

Anne Wilbore (Smith) is my 9th great grandmother. Thanks everyone for the work on the Wilbore family and helping to find problems and resolve them.

I have just merged another few Anne Wilbore (Smith) profiles, so of whom were married to Samuel Wilbore but had the wife's name as Ann/Anne Bradford, even on Geni, even after all the research done on Geni a decade ago. Like maintaining a sand castle.

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087

8/28/2022 at 11:48 AM

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000001947456948?to=600000017...
https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/m/o/o/Pamela-T-Taylor/GENE4-0001.html
Robert Taylor, of Edgecombe
Robert Taylor, of Edgecombe

Private User

8/29/2022 at 10:08 AM

Carissa Hill if you're interested in the Tanner line (not sure how I go in it), Tracy aka Tacy Crandall (Tanner) has a timeline that looks like it might be a mashup of at least two families, unless the birth locations are just wrong. There are sources attached, but when I try to open them it's unformatted.

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087

8/29/2022 at 11:03 AM

I have been working in FREEMAN, again.
The DAR proven names of wives and children is very helpful.
I am now seeing a possible duplicate with same or similar named children/spouses and would appreciate an extra set of eyes please:
https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000013570679810?to=600000018...
John Freeman DAR with a second wife named Sarah X Norfleet meaning widow of Norfleet with a proven child Millicent who married Josiah Perry
and then John Freeman for whom I had to create a new profile because he was merged away but the family group he was born into is listed on the profile along with with note:
i) John Freeman, died 1793, married bef 1760 (1) ____, married (2) Widow Sarah Norfleet who died ion 1807. Issue: 11 children. (but no source listed-- I think is from the Merrill Hill Mosher book on the descendants of John Freeman of Norfolk County, Virginia

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087

8/29/2022 at 11:06 AM

Millicent Perry
Millicent Perry
Sarah Freeman
Sarah Freeman

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087

8/29/2022 at 11:58 AM

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000003913557241?to=600000000...

Private

8/29/2022 at 1:24 PM

Hatte Rubenstein Blejer Don't think of Geni as a sandcastle, because the sea is rising and we don't seem to be doing much about it.

Think of it more as a community garden, and we rake the leaves in autumn, shovel snow in winter, weed the beds in spring, water in the summer, to get ready of raking leaves in the fall.

More productive time than Wordle or Sudoku.

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087

8/30/2022 at 1:18 PM

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000179912918837?to=600000000...

Erica Howton C

8/30/2022 at 1:53 PM

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 - merging done.

Carissa Hill

8/30/2022 at 10:51 PM

Private User Sure I will have a hack at that area. You can send me any lines Colonial/early US. Germany and Norway lines are where I tend to get uneasy working in and tend to not venture into.

Just personally message me as I didn't see this message to me for days for some reason. But on it now to investigate.

Diana Raquel Sainz Wilson PRO

8/31/2022 at 11:43 AM

Janet Mathew - Duplicates

Janet Stradling

Jonet Mathew

Private

8/31/2022 at 12:06 PM

I hope everyone had a great Peach Month!!.
For some reason, someone's private profile keeps showing up in my merge conflict list, and I can't do anything about it.

Thanks for the help.
Private

Diana Raquel Sainz Wilson PRO

8/31/2022 at 12:13 PM

Duplicates. Son of Henry Pruett and Ann Fields, not Rebecca Dobbs, Ann Fields died 20 Aug 1691, (had to be before or Henry only mourned a few hours.)

Henry married Rebecca Ann Dobbs on 20 Aug 1691 in Henrico, Virginia

Henry Pruett, Jr

James Pruitt

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087

8/31/2022 at 12:14 PM

Private year before last I FINALLY got a peach tree and last year it produced THREE lovely peaches and then a young buck rubbed his velvet antlers across the little trunk and nearly destroyed the tree. We had to cut the top of it off above the dead bark and kept the little suckers that were sprouting from the ground near the base of the trunk and then we bought another peach tree this summer and planted it outside of the reach of the deer.
I am so hoping to get peaches from one or both of these trees NEXT summer.
:)

Diana Raquel Sainz Wilson PRO

8/31/2022 at 12:15 PM

Private I hate that... especially when it's well beyond the "privacy" period and is well into the historical period.

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087

8/31/2022 at 12:38 PM

Private and Diana Raquel Sainz Wilson this one he mentioned is 1890's Private and has a sibling Grayson William Lambert born in the 1920's.
Likely will have to sit until the Geni user responds

Private

8/31/2022 at 12:43 PM

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 Try substituting Cardamon and Ginger in a peach cobbler instead of the normal Cinnamon and Nutmeg and/or Allspice.

Also, just delete the spices and substitute 1 small lemon (zest and juice) PLUS 1 tbl rosemary.

Diana Raquel Sainz Wilson In this case if was my fault because I was merging some relatives from my grandparents' or great grandparents' generation, so technically, it doesn't HAVE to be public. But I thought it would just show my public profile and then send the notice to the other person about possible duplicate... not both being private..

Private

8/31/2022 at 12:57 PM

This poor girl is locked to two different mothers (or plausibly the same but with a different date - although unlikely).. Seems to be due to a merge this past June

The About Comments says it should be the one whose maiden name is Unknown.

Mary Leathers

Private

8/31/2022 at 1:14 PM

About Mary Knight's family group. (I merged by mistake the mother of her daughter in law Abigail Willey with the aunt.) Please unmerge
Mary Otis
Abigail Louise Pitman was merged into Mary Louise (Pitman ) Otis by Dean Richard Hobart.
5 minutes ago

Then, for the daughter in law, her husband and HIS parents (Mary Knight and Edward Leathers) seem like maybe the info in the profiles is wrong.. even without that June merge. Some of the profiles reference the wikitree profiles for the family, but from what I can find, the names all duplicate but the dates are off slightly from other sources

Abigail (Willey) Leather's father in law profile has the wikitree link

Edward Leathers

But the Portsmouth Athenaeum Research Library has this other info about the seemingly same people. which also references Abigail and husband William, and their parents.

https://athenaeum.pastperfectonline.com/byperson?keyword=Leathers%2...

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