Magnus, II - Discussion

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According to the 'Scots Peerage,' Magnus II, Earl of Orkney and Earl of Caithness was the son of Gille Crist, 4th Earl of Angus and his second wife, Ingibiorg Ericsdottir of Caithness (daughter of Eric Thorliotsson).

[See Sir James Balfour Paul. The Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's, The Peerage of Scotland, (Edinburgh, Scotland: David Douglas, 1904), vol. 1, pp. 160-165.]

Since Marjory of Huntingdon (born 1152) married secondly, Sir William de Lindsay sometime between 1185 and 1200, Magnus II was obviously the son of Gille Crist, 4th Earl of Angus and his second wife, Ingibiorg Ericsdottir of Caithness. It is most likely that GIlle Crist's daughter, Bethoc of Angus was born around c. 1180, while he was still married to Marjorie of Huntingdon, and then had Magnus II around 1185, when Gille Crist was married to his second wife. Magnus II, Earl of Orkney would have lived about 54 years from 1185 - 1239. Which is a long life span for the early 13th century.

Magnus' first child, Gilbert I (born c. 1210) would put Magnus II around 25 years of age at Gilbert's birth. Which is very acceptable.

Magnus' half-sister, Bethoc of Angus, would have been born around c. 1180 and still be young enough to have any child born around c. 1218, where she'd be 38 years old. There are numerous examples of women in the 13th and 14th centuries having children in their early 40s. One example is Margaret de Bohun (born 1311 - 1391) who had her fifth son, (Sir Philip Courtenay (c.1355 – 29 July 1406), of Powderham, Devon), when she was about 44 years of age.

A date of birth of 1180 for Bethoc of Angus and a date of birth of c. 1185 for Magnus II, both children of Gille Crist, 4th Earl of Angus is very acceptable, as it is widely accepted that they both had different mothers.

Sincerely,

Kelly Murphy