Applicable to Multiple Generations of Immigrants?

Started by Private on Monday, December 12, 2016
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12/12/2016 at 2:06 PM

Let's say John Smith is a father from England, traveling with his son James to St. Mary City, MD in 1641. John was born in 1590 in Yorkshire and his son James in 1623. Neither born in the US. Both immigrated and died here. So are John and James both members of this project or merely John the father?

Private User
12/12/2016 at 8:40 PM

I assume the first ancestor to immigrate to the U.S.A would be the father rather than the son. It does seem somewhat problematic when they arrive together or the parent dies shortly after arriving for example with Thomas Rogers who arrived with his son Joseph on the Mayflower and who died that first winter but he did live long enough to sign the Mayflower Compact.

12/13/2016 at 6:52 AM

Am I authorized to add profiles to this project if they're not my ancestors, but merely immigrants? Does this project include even people who immigrated let's say in 2016? I imagine the earliest possible birthdate for an immigrant to the US (with continuous lineage & descendants) is 1530 or so.

Private User
12/13/2016 at 7:23 AM

I suppose as long as they are someone's ancestors, Jonathan, but immigration in 2016 would be cutting it pretty close and while the natives immigrated much earlier than 1530, there are no records.

Private User
12/13/2016 at 7:54 AM

The description of this project is minimal but I also assume it includes those who immigrated prior to the formation of the United States of America.

12/13/2016 at 7:55 AM

I created the project.
The purpose is to give you a list of your ancestors that were the first to immigrate to the country now known as United States using HistoryLinks. Many users mark their ancestors that were the first to emigrate with a profile picture. This project gives a more concrete way to get a listing of those people.
1) It is intended to mark the parents that brought their children to the colonies/United States.
2) There is no time designation so someone that immigrates in 2016 fits the purpose and will be a marker for future generations.
3) I have no objection to adding immigrants that are not your ancestors but they will not appear in your HistoryLink list. I recommend that you request the addition to the project to the manager of the profile (if you aren't one) as a courtesy.
4) If someone adds the children that accompany the parents, I will not delete them but first ask yourself if you want them listed as your first ancestor in U.S.
5) Technically if someone dies on the trip, they are not an immigrant. Personally, I have no problem with them being added.

Private User
12/13/2016 at 8:01 AM

Thank you for the clarification and the project, Jim. And I really like the graphic at HistoryLinks.

12/13/2016 at 8:38 AM

I get 1530 from the fact that Dutch seemed to arrive as early as the first decade of the 17th century and the oldest of that bunch was likely around 70 or 80. And the English first came is 1607 and I doubt anyone was older than 77 years old on the boats to Jamestown, VA. No Englishpeople are known to have survived 16th century colonies in North Carolina.

3/3/2017 at 12:22 PM

i believe I have a multiple amount of founding fathers, but the earliest date seems to be 1630 John Audley and Margaret (Spooner) and Edith Macomber (Locke) arrived 5/30/1630.

7/7/2017 at 3:35 PM

Elder William Brewster, "Mayflower" Passenger

Just found another ancestor who
Emigrated 1620, on the Mayflower

7/7/2017 at 3:36 PM

He is my 11th great grandfather.

Elder William Brewster, "Mayflower" Passenger

7/7/2017 at 3:53 PM

John Lovejoy, Sr
Here is another immigrant ancestor from 1630, an 8th GGR.

Private User
7/8/2017 at 4:40 AM

I am connected to Brewster also and Soule and a few others

Private User
7/8/2017 at 4:45 AM

I would think if both the parents and the children, minor and older ones arr. on the same ship and on the same day, would all be considered the immigrants
My Gilman line is like that and I have other lines also like that,

8/5/2017 at 12:40 PM

My earliest ancestors to come here (on my dad's side) were on the Mayflower.
However on my mothers side they came in the 1800's. Can I include this other branch of my family......or is it just the first period?

8/5/2017 at 5:49 PM

Mary Sanford Drexler, your mother has different ancestors than your dad so their entrance into U.S. is just as historic. The first immigrant ancestors on both sides should be included.

Private User
11/30/2019 at 7:36 AM

How does an ordinary current person, not a 'manager', get to see who is included in the First Ancestor listing? I'm asking because I have several Firsts, some on the Mayflower but on other voyages in the first half of the 1600s,and I'd like to know if they have been put on the list. Thanks for any help.

11/30/2019 at 8:39 AM

Every project has a “profiles” list to it - on the right side. There’s a link to “view all” -

It defaults to “added to project” order, most recent first. The entire list can be exported as a CSV file.

Private User
12/1/2019 at 7:11 AM

Thanks, cousin Erica. Wow, I didn't realize there would be over 4,000 names in the list. Just what is a CSV file, and what does it produce?

Private User
12/1/2019 at 7:36 AM

Again, Erica, is there an easy way to navigate through the 222 pages of the list. Or is there a way to search for a specific name within the list? Thanks again.

12/1/2019 at 10:51 AM

I don’t think we can search within a project yet, it would be a nice enhancement; but I’m not entirely sure. Anyone else?

CSV files described here, an export can be imported into a program like Excel.

The easier way, though, is to look at your ancestral profile and see if it needs to be added to the project. For every Geni profile, open it up to profile view, and the projects it has been added to are listed on the right side. It it hasn’t been added you can request or add to the relevant project(s).

For example:

John Howland, "Mayflower" Passenger

Private User
1/22/2020 at 11:24 AM

Erica, I've been at it a while, and have found 83 direct ancestors who, per their Geni profile, are NOT in the First Ancestors project. What do I do with them??

1/22/2020 at 11:51 AM

Add the profiles to the project:

(From the project, upper right hand corner , options > add profile > (URL of profile))

Private User
1/22/2020 at 2:09 PM

Thanks, Erica, but (as a newbie) how do I find those URL? Do I open each profile and it automatically calls itself by its unique URL?
Also, I note several profiles say there are no projects but I can add them to one if I choose.

1/22/2020 at 11:43 PM

The URL is the browser address. You can also add profiles to project from the profile - might be easier for you that way.

Private User
1/23/2020 at 8:36 AM

Erica, I hate to sound so stupid, but I'm still confused and frustrated. First I went to the "First-Ancestor" site and could not find the "options" button anywhere.
Then I opened (separately) 2 of my ancestor's profiles, went to the "actions" button, found "invite to project", in the "Find a project" window I typed in "First-Ancestor-to-Immigrate-to-U-S-A" and clicked on "DONE". My screen returned to the profile site, but the "Related Projects" list remained unchanged.
These are the 2 profiles:
Any further suggestions, or should we open a direct email conversation?

1/23/2020 at 10:13 AM

William Arnold (Needed the https:// to make it a live link in a geni discussion).

I’m in profile view, not tree view. Actions > project > (wait for project list to load)

Find a project window. Type first ancestor ... (wait for name to show)

Select it so it shows in the box.

Success is the message: added to project. (In green).

Press the DONE button.

To remove from project:

Actions > add to project (view projects), X next to the name of wrong project.


Figured if it’s confusing for you, it’s confusing for others. But once you get the hang of it, very easy & fast. :)

1/23/2020 at 10:16 AM

Did you want to try with ?

I think you had missed the select project name so it showed in the little box (in black type) before hitting the DONE button.

Private User
1/24/2020 at 5:36 AM

Thanx, Erica. I'll get to it later today or on the weekend. I guess my major error was not waiting long enuf.

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