Adalbert II, King of Italy - Looks like he's been mashed

We also have a problem with his "nickname", "el Joven". That's SPANISH, not Italian. Italian would be "il Giovine".

We also have a problem with his "nickname", "el Joven". That's SPANISH, not Italian. Italian would be "il Giovine".

Did they really speak Italian around 932? Italian was first normalized under the 1300s, Latin, juvenes, spanish, joven, or your modern Italian standardized Giovine, what is most correct?

They would NOT be speaking Spanish in Lombard Italy in the 930s.

The Lombardic dialect of Old High German, *possibly*, though it was pretty much Out by 800 AD; Lombard Italian dialect, quite probably. (Dialects arose all over Italy as soon as there was no central civil government to make everyone speak Latin - the Church was not only not a sufficiently powerful replacement, though it tried, but *its* spoken Latin was soon "contaminated" by dialect.)

You can check with Justin Swanstrom or Margaret she is the manager of the pofile

Justin when he gets back - he's away from his resources at the moment.

I know from Italian, I *speak* it, although badly.

C
AN NOT WAIT TO FIND OUT

This might take awhile. Who wants to tackle the clean up?

The nickname "el Joven" was added in May 2012. Not sure on what authority. I'm going to just remove it.

As you've already seen, he's been merged with Oberto d'Este. His wife was Gerberge. The other wives (and children) should be Oberto's.

I *thought* somebody smashed him. Ugh, more clean-up work. :-(

I wanted to post ion this discussion, but I accidentally created a new discussion. Please see my other post. There are a lot of mistakes on this entry.

New discussion here:
https://www.geni.com/discussions/173704?msg=1178725