Shubael S Stearns - The Mother of Shubael Stearns’ (1655-1734) & Children

Started by Erica Howton on Saturday, December 13, 2014
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12/13/2014 at 11:27 PM

Starting this discussion for Fred Mulholland

12/13/2014 at 11:43 PM

Shubael Stearns children were born between 1683 and 1699 (see “Genealogy and Memoirs of Charles and Nathaniel Stearns, and Their Descendants” Avis Stearns Van Wagenen 1901). Sometimes the mother is listed as Mary Upton (1665-1755). However, their marriage intention was 27 Apr 1705 in the Lynn vital records (see “Vital Records of Lynn Massachusetts to the End of the Year 1849; Volume II Marriages and Deaths” page 356). Also, her father, John Upton, in his will of 1697, refers to Mary by her birth name, May Upton, but refers to her sister Ann by her married name, Ann Fraile (the entire will is in “The Upton Memorial, A Genealogical Record of the Descendants of John Upton of North Reading, Mass., …” John Adams Vinton 1871). In the will he also leaves money to his granddaughter by Ann but never mentions any grandchildren by Mary. The book later states that Mary was unmarried at the time of her father’s will (1697). The two references I have seen to the mother of Shubael Stearns’ children both say her name is unknown (the book by Avis Stearns Van Wagenen listed above and “New England Marriages Prior to 1700” by Torrey). Torrey also shows the marriage to Mary Upton as a second marriage.

12/14/2014 at 12:40 AM

Mike Stangel I started this discussion for Fred because he's been caught in a Captcha "submit security code" - with no place to submit code - when he's tried. Same results on IE & Firefox, cleared cookies ... When you have a chance ...

Back to genealogy !

12/15/2014 at 10:22 AM

When starting a new discussion:
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12/15/2014 at 10:37 AM

I do see the "Security code" label. I do NOT see the dark red Recapcha box.

12/15/2014 at 1:19 PM

Fred

Can you take a look at this

http://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000000278186585

I'm working on moving Schuabel's children over to his first wife as per your notes; will be done shortly.

12/15/2014 at 11:24 PM

Erica - thank you for fixing this. The profiles for Elizabeth Stearns (Barron) and Elizabeth Stearns (Barnes) are the same person. The children Lydia and Ruth are 2 of the 4 children of Elizabeth and John that married and had children.. The surname Barnes comes from "Genealogy and Memoirs of Charles and Nathaniel Steanrs and their Descendants" published 1901. This book made the guess that Mary Upton was the mother of all Shubael Stearns children because she didn't have the marriage date, and of course that was an error. The Barbour Collection of Connecticut records calls the wife Elizabeth Carns which seems like a transcription error. I do not know how Elizabeth Barron got in there. I can find no record of her marriage or death. Another question is the daughter Elizabeth for Shubael. The Stearns book says he had 9 children and she is a 10th. There is a record of the marriage of Elizabeth Stearns and Samuel Flint, but I can't fit either of them into families. (My family is the "Salem Flints" not the "Concord Flints") I don't feel I know enough about these 2 items to do anything.

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