Edward I "Longshanks", King of England - When did the bame become plantagenet

Started by Melissa King on Tuesday, December 10, 2013
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12/10/2013 at 11:40 PM

Hope you enjoy this read Melissa King: i'ts for our joint relative Edward II son of LONGSHANKS....when the file open up after you click on the lt. blue name....you can then clik the Longshangs file and that will open for you....find your connecting ancestor, likely the Margaret Churchill one. and enjoy!!!! DCR 1948 Edward II, king of England

12/11/2013 at 6:04 AM


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12/11/2013 at 7:40 AM

Geoffrey Count of Anjou (father of Henry II) supposedly coined "Plantagenet" and used it as an agnomen (sort of a nickname).

The first person that we know used it as a proper surname was Richard, 3rd Duke of York in the 15th century - the one whose bid for the crown failed so dismally. However, two of his sons did become king (Edward IV and Richard III).

12/11/2013 at 9:45 AM

Maven: His Wife was named Matilda or Maud after her mother Maude of Scottland yes? The very establihed ancient line so he wanted the Name for his dynasty/political purposes I suppose. Geoffroy V, Count of Anjou, Maine and Mortain, DCR1948

12/11/2013 at 11:25 PM

@dale, @maven, thanks for your insight, im glad that our family can help put this enormous family tree puzzle together as a collective. Hope our anscestors left us enough clues.

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12/11/2013 at 11:39 PM


Edward I "Longshanks", King of England is Ian Winton's 21st great grandfather!

12/12/2013 at 6:21 AM

The name became "Plantagenet" because Geoffrey V of Anjou, who was a very religious person, wore somekind of a Robin Hood hat, and instead of a feather he inserted in the same place a twig of a plant called "Planta Genetis" (broom). This plant had the characteristic of being very bitter, and it was a symbol of humility. Due to this he started being nicknamed with this word, and as it is usual in history turned to an official name.

12/12/2013 at 6:26 AM

My source, among others, is a book by Isaac Asimov: "The Formation of England" in which you can find an extense bibliography to help you confirm this anecdote.

12/12/2013 at 6:49 AM

By the way the exact name of the book I mentioned is: "The Shaping of England" >>>>>http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/158390.The_Shaping_of_England

12/12/2013 at 10:22 AM

Oops b instead of n in name. Yall know what i meant though

12/12/2013 at 10:26 AM

So what about the no last name till 1900s. And they said they considered the name . .

12/12/2013 at 10:45 AM

The name Plantagenet has been assigned to many people from this family even though there is no proof they ever used it, much less that it was ever their surname.

12/12/2013 at 9:37 PM

Ok, so given just for geneological purposes?

12/12/2013 at 9:51 PM

I think because people who know a little of the history will recognize the name, so it helps them understand. Also maybe because some scholars use it as their Dynastic Name (different from a surname) and Geni doesn't have a way to enter Dynastic Names.

12/12/2013 at 10:42 PM

Thank you for clarifying

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