Vorle Gaudin de Chatillon - Vorle Gaudin de Chatillon

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The about me for "Vorle" Gaudin de Chatillon says "this is not his name, not his occupation."

Can we find out what his name was, or his occupation? Or at least take Vorle out of his first name and put "N.N." since nobody has input a true name for him?

A source would be nice.... the text in "about me" is so ungrammatical that it's hard to know if it refers to "Vorle", "Gaudin" or neither.

The corresponding wikitree profile seems to be http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gaudin-116, and the reference given there (apart from other online trees) is "Genealogies of the families of Chezzetcook, N.S. : Bellefontaine,Edition: Second revision."

The book exists on Google Books (http://books.google.no/books?id=O5uYygAACAAJ&dq=Genealogies+of+...) - but not even a preiview that I can see. So this may be a "take an online family tree and print it" project, or it may be a serious one.

But the tracks seem to use both names, so a deletion should only be used based on sourced data, I would think.

Aha, now I see it ... in the change log ... the word "teinturer" was listed as a middle name, and has already been taken away by Keith van der Wal.

The change log doesn't show deleted fields very well....

According to Fichier Origine..

http://www.fichierorigine.com/detail.php?numero=241830

Pierre Godin dit Châtillon was baptised (not born) 17 May 1630 in Châtillon-sur-Seine (St-Vorles) (Côte-dOr). Hi

His parents were Claude Godin (also spelled as Gaudin) and Marie Bardin.
Note Claude does not have the name Châtillon added. The "de" means "of" and is only added to people descended from aristocracy. It was a name that his son adopted.

He had two sisters..Jeanne or Perrine baptized 25-07-1624 and Marie, baptized 25-03-1627. His grandparents were Vorles Gaudin (also spelled as Godin) who was a "teinturier" and Brigitte Gouzier of Châtillon-sur-Seine. Vorles is his first name. "Teinturier" is dyer in French, his occupation.

Vorles's parents were Maurice Gaudin et Huguette Pampelune. Maurice was a "cavalier" or horseman in English.

Unfortunately, the other reliable source for data for this time frame ..

"Programme de Recherche sur l'Émigration des Français en Nouvelle-France",

http://www.unicaen.fr/mrsh/prefen/fichePion.php?id=6231

only goes as far as Claude Godin et Marie Bardin. There is no mention of Vorles even though they reference Fichier Origine as a source.

Given the time frame and the lack of agreement between these two sources, it makes me suspicious. I only trust up to Claude & Marie.

The name does not include "de" as per PRDH.

Also, there is no proof that Jacques Godin, the father of Charles Godin is the brother of Claude Godin dit Châtillon.

Charles was born about 1632 in St-Laurent de beaumais (auj. aubermesnil-beaumais), Rouen, Normandie.. Claude Godin dit Châtillon was born in Châtillon-sur-Seine (St-Vorles) (Côte-dOr) . These are two places are not even close in France..

i still beleive they all link as a family, at those time as today we still have family secrets .some wanted in time those information to be deleted why our ancestor moove from foreing land ..they moove all over europe too ...history say theyre was a religious war

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=rnels... im going with this one

i am goin to charlesbourg qc to foud more about today
Pierre arrived in Montreal in 1653. He was at Charlebourg, Quebec from 1653
until 1664

mart, you are thinking of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Wars_of_Religion ?

These offered plenty of reasons for many to hide their name and history, for sure..... bad times.

harald we are in a deep understanding of the fact :)
sure its a reasonable idea to hide name...thats open a new door to
study and talk but maybe on a diferent site than genie....

more i read more i study i learn few things that was not as true history but be writen by some want to be as read as true.

personal:/ here in quebec city we have a big celebration its called fille du roi ...am fine with that but they totaly forgoten older story and dont try to mention here you be called a fool//
fille du roi=1663
when i try to talk about my direct ancestor arival on 1641 at 10years old that story is rejected automaticaly in quebec!
have a nice day harald ,yallz

mart ( french man speaking writin) :P

Belief is one thing. Proof is another. I have been involved in Quebecois genealogy for close to 25 years and really, I have to admit, I am getting tired of all this.

There is no proof that Jacques Godin is the brother of Claude. Just because that link appears in some family site is NOT proof. It is only proof of people copying from other un-sourced family trees, given errors a life of its own.

Us French Canadians (yup, I am one too) are fortunate that in la belle province, genealogie is taken very seriously. We have the research being done at the PRDH, University de Caen, University of Ottawa, University of NB etc.., all based on the actual church records and notary records, in both Quebec and in France. We (those who have paid for it) have access to Drouin, notary records etc.. Our genealogy is well researched, documented and continued to be fine tuned. The work is essentially done for us.

And NONE of these sources have this link.

For quebecois genealogy, reliable sources are the PRDH (based on corrected Tanguay, Church records, notary records.... ), Francogene, Drouin amd PREFEN. Any other source (rootsweb, for example) cannot be trusted as reliable, unless the data posted is sourced back to one of the above listed sources.

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